thierry laurent Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 38 minutes ago, discus said: Indeed, there is already so much to do with WW2 fighters, I think they can easily stick to this theme for ages and some planes are pretty good money printers. And many have been fairly mistreated by the likes of Trumpeter or other kit manufacteurs. Other are simply not up the nowadays standard. The other day, someone pointed out that we don't have a proper Hawker Typhoon kit in 1/32 (1/24 Airfix may be too big for some of us, me included). Although this may not be a garanteed money printer this was a pretty significant aircraft in the allied forces. Late Corsair variants have been blatently ignored in recent productions, same for the P-51 B/C... I was disappointed to see yet another 109 but I understand the K variant has no decent kit so far. So it's probably a good move from Kotare: people who desperatly wanted a decent 109K will be (hopefully) satisfied and for the others "less knowledgeable people, they'll be happy because it's a modern 109 kit). There is however one risk (hence the hopefully between brackets in the previous sentence) : it's a 109 and there is no room for errors or misunterpretation from Kotare. Every "self appointed Expertens" and rivet counter wil spend the next month disecting any 3D rendering, test shot and picture and will decide that the kit is bull***t because rivet n° 72 somewhere where nobody will see it is not exacly where it should be.... You are right but the 109K is actually well-documented from a technical perspective and this also applies now to most other 109 marks. So the risk is low. Note documentation was far more limited when the Hasegawa 109 were released. discus, Andreas Beck and Gazzas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pup7309 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, discus said: Indeed, there is already so much to do with WW2 fighters, I think they can easily stick to this theme for ages and some planes are pretty good money printers. And many have been fairly mistreated by the likes of Trumpeter or other kit manufacteurs. Other are simply not up the nowadays standard. The other day, someone pointed out that we don't have a proper Hawker Typhoon kit in 1/32 (1/24 Airfix may be too big for some of us, me included). Although this may not be a garanteed money printer this was a pretty significant aircraft in the allied forces. Late Corsair variants have been blatently ignored in recent productions, same for the P-51 B/C... I was disappointed to see yet another 109 but I understand the K variant has no decent kit so far. So it's probably a good move from Kotare: people who desperatly wanted a decent 109K will be (hopefully) satisfied and for the others "less knowledgeable people, they'll be happy because it's a modern 109 kit). There is however one risk (hence the hopefully between brackets in the previous sentence) : it's a 109 and there is no room for errors or misunterpretation from Kotare. Every "self appointed Expertens" and rivet counter wil spend the next month disecting any 3D rendering, test shot and picture and will decide that the kit is bull***t because rivet n° 72 somewhere where nobody will see it is not exacly where it should be.... And as a non- exported who wouldn’t know an f from a k I don’t give a crap. Edited January 21 by LSP_Mike Remove implied profanity Shoggz, Gazzas and discus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerwomble Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Palm-tree said: The Graf Von Aubergine ? discus, Alain Gadbois and europapete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I do have to wonder a little about this. If Kotare's big reason for coming out with (yet another %^&*$# 109, that even has an already kitted competitor of the same type, not to mention numerous versions already out there) this kit is because it's popular, why on earth not do a P-51B? Surely that would be at least as popular as this version? Out2gtcha and GeeBee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Well Mark C, that seems to be the 64 dollar question. ZM is working on one, Revell turned it down flat, Tamiya and Hasegawa are taking a break from 1/32, so that leaves ICM, Special Hobby, and Kotare. CRAZY IVAN5, Martinnfb and D.B. Andrus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pup7309 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) So can they use the -k version and backdate it to a G-6 or just a G14? Similar airframe? Edited January 21 by Pup7309 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pup7309 said: So can they use the -k version and backdate it to a G-6 or just a G14? Similar airframe? Nope, from approximately the instrument panel forward is totally different between 109K-4/G-10 and the G-6/G-14 series. IF they continue with a similar kit, the next logical choice would be the Bf109G-10 (notwithstanding the various manufacturing facility (WNF/Diana, MTT, Erla) differences. Edited January 21 by Juggernut Martinnfb, Pup7309 and nmayhew 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 They did say they were going to build what they wanted... so somebody wanted a 109. Which is always cool with me. I wonder if they'll drop a few versions of 109's like they did with the Spitfire before coming out with a new type. Wouldn't that be sweet? Pup7309, Martinnfb, CRAZY IVAN5 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Gazzas said: They did say they were going to build what they wanted... so somebody wanted a 109. Which is always cool with me. I wonder if they'll drop a few versions of 109's like they did with the Spitfire before coming out with a new type. Wouldn't that be sweet? No! Pup7309, Christa, CharmyDown and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Roberts Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, Gazzas said: They did say they were going to build what they wanted... so somebody wanted a 109. Which is always cool with me. I wonder if they'll drop a few versions of 109's like they did with the Spitfire before coming out with a new type. Wouldn't that be sweet? That’s my recollection too - I’m sure the Kotare team said they were going to produce kitsets that they have a passion for. Though I suspect commercial interests may dictate the subjects of the first few kitsets. If your wish list fits their passion, you’re in luck. MikeC, Out2gtcha, williamj and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_C Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, LSP_Mike said: Well Mark C, that seems to be the 64 dollar question. ZM is working on one, Revell turned it down flat, Tamiya and Hasegawa are taking a break from 1/32, so that leaves ICM, Special Hobby, and Kotare. Hm. If ICM does it, it will likely be great. Let's hope they do. Pup7309, Out2gtcha and CRAZY IVAN5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I really hope someone like Kotare, ZM or HKM does a new tool LSP P-51B. It's got to be one of the most popular subjects out there that does not currently have a good (or available) LSP version. Archimedes, Gazzas, williamj and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I personally am hoping HKM does a Do 17 or a Dinah. Christa, Gazzas, firefly7 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Late war Bf109s are very good subject for Modellers. The Ks even more, with non-regulation paint occasionally and three distinct patterns plus the Erla mystery. monthebiff, CRAZY IVAN5, Gazzas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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