mozart Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 For those not on Fb: Hmmmm! Rick Griewski, kalashnikov-47, scvrobeson and 13 others 8 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Thanks Max Christa, Martinnfb and mozart 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32009 might be a BAC Model 167 Strikemaster, but more likely something propellery if it's an aircraft kitset. The last time we had this round of conjecture I was thinking ground support gear or Brian Lane's wife Eileen Ellison and her Bugatti racing car. Tony Pup7309 and Christa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanKB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Slightly depressing to see Kotare follow the Wingnut Wings playbook, and label kits as "sold out", whilst releasing multiple kits of the same subject. Ultimately, the WNW strategy failed, and I'm not sure there are enough people willing to pay almost £100 for each multiple early 1/32 Spitfire kits? The market is only so big, as WNW discovered, especially with 1/32 Spitfires being available in multiple, cheaper options, albeit not the same quality. I'm finding it peculiarly easy to not want, or purchase, any Kotare Spits other than the 1 kit. If Kotare hope to follow the WNW model and basically scare people into buying a kit before it's "sold out", I'm not sure that's going to work? My mind keeps coming back to WNW, with it's 3 Felixstowe boxing's, 5 Fokker Eindecker versions, untold Fokker D.VII offerings, seemingly endless Camel kits, various Albatros boxing's, etc. Or am I just a miserable old git? iaf-man, Tissue and Dope, Fanes and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2660 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 And never one Spad. Paul DeanKB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Mk.V is logical and smart choice. The rest is just a mental masturbation. Rick Griewski, Fanes and Tolga ULGUR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpgsbody55 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 So no mention of a Mk.Vb or Vc???? Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 4 hours ago, DeanKB said: Slightly depressing to see Kotare follow the Wingnut Wings playbook, and label kits as "sold out", whilst releasing multiple kits of the same subject. Ultimately, the WNW strategy failed, and I'm not sure there are enough people willing to pay almost £100 for each multiple early 1/32 Spitfire kits? The market is only so big, as WNW discovered, especially with 1/32 Spitfires being available in multiple, cheaper options, albeit not the same quality. I'm finding it peculiarly easy to not want, or purchase, any Kotare Spits other than the 1 kit. If Kotare hope to follow the WNW model and basically scare people into buying a kit before it's "sold out", I'm not sure that's going to work? My mind keeps coming back to WNW, with it's 3 Felixstowe boxing's, 5 Fokker Eindecker versions, untold Fokker D.VII offerings, seemingly endless Camel kits, various Albatros boxing's, etc. Or am I just a miserable old git? And yet I seem to remember you had a huge stock of WNW kits in your purpose-built shed Dean! Christa, Talon and Rick Griewski 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince14 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 hours ago, DeanKB said: Slightly depressing to see Kotare follow the Wingnut Wings playbook, and label kits as "sold out", whilst releasing multiple kits of the same subject. Ultimately, the WNW strategy failed, and I'm not sure there are enough people willing to pay almost £100 for each multiple early 1/32 Spitfire kits? The market is only so big, as WNW discovered, especially with 1/32 Spitfires being available in multiple, cheaper options, albeit not the same quality. I'm finding it peculiarly easy to not want, or purchase, any Kotare Spits other than the 1 kit. If Kotare hope to follow the WNW model and basically scare people into buying a kit before it's "sold out", I'm not sure that's going to work? My mind keeps coming back to WNW, with it's 3 Felixstowe boxing's, 5 Fokker Eindecker versions, untold Fokker D.VII offerings, seemingly endless Camel kits, various Albatros boxing's, etc. Or am I just a miserable old git? You're reading way too much into it. Paul in Napier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanKB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 hours ago, mozart said: And yet I seem to remember you had a huge stock of WNW kits in your purpose-built shed Dean! Guilty as charged! The primary reason I've got so many WNW kits is because of WNW's "sold out" signs - it's natural that a limited supply will ensure demand is always in excess of supply, which not only powers demand, but keeps prices higher than they otherwise would be. Having said that....WNW's demise suggests the people who seemed to benefit the most from it all were - and are - those who subsequently sold their kits for a healthy profit. I'm guilty on both sides, having sold a Gotha for silly money on EBay, but also paid over the odds for, example, FE.2b & Albatros B.II kits. I just don't want Kotare to go the same route. Nothing against Kotare, their 1a kit is the best early 1/32 Spitfire on the market, I just find the "sold out" frustrating and artificial, in a world where the marginal cost of getting more kits manufactured is lower than the cost of the original run? This is the economist & accountant in me talking. Christa, mozart, Rick Griewski and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanKB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, vince14 said: You're reading way too much into it. You are 100% correct Vince! Although I don't work anymore, I used to be an accountant & economist, and I sometimes stray back into my previous life. Long may Kotare and their ilk survive & prosper! Iain, D.B. Andrus, MikeMaben and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 minutes ago, DeanKB said: Guilty as charged! The primary reason I've got so many WNW kits is because of WNW's "sold out" signs - it's natural that a limited supply will ensure demand is always in excess of supply, which not only powers demand, but keeps prices higher than they otherwise would be. Having said that....WNW's demise suggests the people who seemed to benefit the most from it all were - and are - those who subsequently sold their kits for a healthy profit. I'm guilty on both sides, having sold a Gotha for silly money on EBay, but also paid over the odds for, example, FE.2b & Albatros B.II kits. I just don't want Kotare to go the same route. Nothing against Kotare, their 1a kit is the best early 1/32 Spitfire on the market, I just find the "sold out" frustrating and artificial, in a world where the marginal cost of getting more kits manufactured is lower than the cost of the original run? This is the economist & accountant in me talking. I believe part of the issue is the fact they subcontract the production of all the components. So I'm not convinced the production costs will go down and you still have minimum production numbers per run. Being sure the produced batch is fully sold is surely the best cost/benefit approach for a young company. So even if somewhat frustrating for the customer I think this makes full sense for the producer. Kagemusha, Iain, Christa and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 (edited) I’m ready to admit that I wasn’t going to order the mid-Spit and it was the “sold out” that made me order one from Jadlam. Having said that and seeing the kit and started researching, I have no regrets whatsoever! So SOLD OUT worked! Perhaps I’m just gullible! Edited January 10 by mozart DeanKB, Paul in Napier, Uncarina and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Griewski Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 They will not need to play that game with me when the Mk. V is released. I will not need special boxings due to all the decals I have for this mark. I am ready! Shoggz and CRAZY IVAN5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I sincerely hope the additional Spitfire release this year is a Mk. Vb, as it will be a huge seller, but then how many would go back, so to speak, and buy a Va over a Vb, hardly anyone, I'm surprised they didn't include a Bader figure with that kit. Iain, Christa, Martinnfb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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