LSP_K2 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Modelpig said: Been slowly picking away at this one for years...perhaps I should get it done soon. Beautiful! Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Dave Williams said: Aside from the fact the GBs for this year are already scheduled, this seems to have a political slant to it in that it’s essentially taking a side in a ongoing conflict. I’m assuming that a Russian aircraft GB would be roundly rejected, but if you really wanted to make it non political, how about a Russian-Ukraine GB? I’m not in any way supporting Russia, I’m just against politics creeping into this board, and even if people claim it’s about solidarity or other high minded principles, it’s still political in the current context, and there will be comments taking one side or the other, as has already happened. If people want to start their own WIPs, that’s great! But as an officially sanctioned GB of this forum, I don’t think it’s the right way to go. I'd be inclined to agree with that. lawman56 and MikeC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titan Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Would anything made by ICM count? Dragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, titan said: Would anything made by ICM count? Now that’s an idea! Alain Dragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cloud Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Dave Williams said: Aside from the fact the GBs for this year are already scheduled, this seems to have a political slant to it in that it’s essentially taking a side in a ongoing conflict. I’m assuming that a Russian aircraft GB would be roundly rejected, but if you really wanted to make it non political, how about a Russian-Ukraine GB? I’m not in any way supporting Russia, I’m just against politics creeping into this board, and even if people claim it’s about solidarity or other high minded principles, it’s still political in the current context, and there will be comments taking one side or the other, as has already happened. If people want to start their own WIPs, that’s great! But as an officially sanctioned GB of this forum, I don’t think it’s the right way to go. It's just my opinion but I do not see a political slant. It would not be an anti Russian GB. There have been group builds such as British or Italian planes, why not Ukrainian? Edited March 1, 2022 by Johnny Cloud Spelling Daniel Leduc, blackbetty, Martinnfb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Roof Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Iraq invades Kuwait Modelers building Kuwaiti and coalition equipment in group builds = okay Terrorists attack the US Modelers building US and coalition equipment in group builds = okay Russia invades Ukraine Modelers building Ukrainian equipment in group builds = political slant and 'taking sides' I just ordered a bunch of Ukrainian Air Force decals and have kits to put them on because yeah, I'm taking their side! I'm in Marcel111, Phartycr0c, Oldbaldguy and 19 others 20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 cool, Dave! Martinnfb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Matt Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 The staff have been discussing it and whilst we'd certainly like to, we've already had an example in another thread of where perfectly clear rules about not getting political were broken. Naturally, we're disinclined to risk launching a group build that by its very nature, almost invites less restrained members, or even those who repeatedly ignore moderator directions, from getting political or snappy with each other. The staff have no issue with anyone wanting to build a Ukrainian Air force plane in our forums...but this is a modelling site and we have a strict rule of NO POLITICS. Thanks Matt LSP_K2, MikeC, Kagemusha and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 as we see in various threads people have all kinds of opportunities to get snappy at eachother, no need for a group build like this for it. but i respect the decision of the staff, moreso because you run the site we all enjoy and i am thankfull for that. Landrotten Highlander, Out2gtcha, Kagemusha and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Matt Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, blackbetty said: as we see in various threads people have all kinds of opportunities to get snappy at eachother, no need for a group build like this for it. but i respect the decision of the staff, moreso because you run the site we all enjoy and i am thankfull for that. Thanks mate. Appreciate it. LSP_K2, Iain, Out2gtcha and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, LSP_Matt said: Thanks mate. Appreciate it. Indeed we do. We appreciate all the members understanding at this time. D.B. Andrus, LSP_K2, Phartycr0c and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Dave Roof said: Iraq invades Kuwait Modelers building Kuwaiti and coalition equipment in group builds = okay Terrorists attack the US Modelers building US and coalition equipment in group builds = okay Russia invades Ukraine Modelers building Ukrainian equipment in group builds = political slant and 'taking sides' I just ordered a bunch of Ukrainian Air Force decals and have kits to put them on because yeah, I'm taking their side! I'm in Building Ukrainian aircraft or not isn’t the point. No one said that couldn’t be done. It’s having a specific officially sanctioned GB. In 1991 was there an official Kuwaiti GB here? In 2001 was there a specific US GB? I don’t think so. The question remains, if people want to build Ukrainian aircraft, for whatever reason, why not just start a WIP and do it? Why does it have to be an official LSP GB? Daniel Leduc, D.B. Andrus, D Bellis and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 lets put this to rest, ok? R Palimaka, LSP_Matt, Wurgermeister64 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwest21 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 So if one was to build a Ukranian MiG-29, which variant is correct? The A or the C or both? TIme frame for the plane I want to build is whatever is current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 No Politics - Just deep sadness.. https://theaviationist.com/2022/03/01/col-oksanchenko-shot-down/ Anyone got a spare SU-27? LSP_K2, LSP_Matt, Alain Gadbois and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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