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Hey, Peter, once you finish this one and maybe the Tigercat, have you had any thoughts on the HobbyBoss Fw190? I just got mine and while it has really nice surface detail, the cockpit and wheel wells could really use the Peter/Airscale touch. Especially the IP. Please? :whistle:

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On 8/1/2018 at 6:35 PM, rtwpsom2 said:

Dug through my image folder to see if I could come up with some references to help.

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Those renders look awesome! 

What software do you use?

Thanks.

 

Juraj

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On 8/16/2018 at 7:31 AM, rtwpsom2 said:

I work for Aircorps doing CAD, these are the models we used to build Lope's Hope.

 

Wow - I am honoured to have you and Denzil along for the ride :) congrats on the win!

 

your CAD is going to be exceptionally useful in the coming weeks...

 

On 8/23/2018 at 7:35 AM, LSP_Ray said:

Hey, Peter, once you finish this one and maybe the Tigercat, have you had any thoughts on the HobbyBoss Fw190? I just got mine and while it has really nice surface detail, the cockpit and wheel wells could really use the Peter/Airscale touch. Especially the IP. Please? :whistle:

 

Hi Ray - I toyed with the 190 as it's one of my favourite aircraft, but I am hooked on metal skinning and I have not quite come to terms with painting over it - despite looking i don't think any were ever natural metal!

 

So, an actual update is needed as some actual modelling has occured...

 

As I said before, I was expecting the decals from Ray at Fantasy Printshop and a few days ago these arrived - as you can see I have quite a few... I laid it out with only one of each decal as any duplicates can be taken from another sheet..

 

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..the quality is up to Ray's usual standard - ie exceptional... lets take a quick tour from right to left...

 

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beautiful instruments :)

 

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..there are a bunch of airframe stencils too - all studiously copied from the original drawings..

 

As far as selling / making in 1/32 or 1/24 I think that is unlikely before you ask :)

 

Now my bench is reassembled, the decal's arrival spurred me on to actually get started again after a long hot summer - I thought I would dress up the Throttle quadrant first..

 

..simply sprayed it black, added the decals and a quick shot of varnish to seal them in and it was done...

 

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more...

 

 

 

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..now I had bust my cherry, I wanted a fairly simple but nice to work on mini project so I settled on the MN-26 Radio Compass – it’s the grey unit seen here..

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..to make the body of the unit I used a PE blank to score the size I needed from a sheet of Perspex acrylic..

 

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..I started to make all the knobs, buttons & switches – here I used a Dremel to spin up a bolt and a file to shape that into one of the larger tuning knobs..

 

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..I had a PE blank of the front panel of the unit and used this to reference where to drill holes in the perspex to take all the knobs..

 

..the knobs are an assortment of bits fashioned from old watch parts (I bought a little tub on ebay for £5 ages ago – super useful stuff) – the most challenging was the tuner handle in the middle – this has a shaft, crank & handle – the handle was scored with a fine saw blade to try and give the impression of the tiny ridges that give grip…

 

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..here are the watch bits – lots of tiny metal shapes of infinite precision, brilliant for repurposing..

 

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..then the handles were all painted black, the Perspex unit grey, and I prepared the face decal that carries the colour & markings..

 

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..the decal was stuck to the PE face & varnished, some ‘glass’ was sourced from ultra thin sheet and the decal for the dial face prepared..

 

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..the first stage of assembly saw the face added to the unit as a laminate with some glass and the dial decal..

 

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..and all the gubbins added..

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..so thats it. Back in the chair and enjoying myself again..

 

next up I am thinking of the cockpit 'A' frame and the longerons that link all the bulkheads together..

 

TTFN

Peter

 

 

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Hi Peter - I just started following this subject.  Wow!  What an awesome project.   Now a few years back I did a 1/18 re-do of a 21st Century Toys P-51D "Miss Velma".  There are articles on it on LSP:

 

https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=939

 

  Although a giant project it was not nearly what you have planned here, and not nearly as well detailed.  But, in so doing, I learned so very very much about the P-51, especially its drawing system.   Back then, I do not believe Aircorps Library was around like it is now, but I acquired CD's of the drawings in their entirety.  I will reread all this thread to see if you have unanswered questions that maybe I can help with.  Also, I highly recommend you sign up with the P-51 Special Interest Group (SIG).  It's free, and those folks might be the pre-imminent experts on all things P-51.  What a resource.  Just google P-51 SIG.  

 

As for tires/wheels - I did a heckuva lot of research on the sizing, as most model manufacturers and even the resin folks get it wrong.  That includes Tamiya BTW.  Here is what I used for the lathe-turned parts for Miss Velma:  Tire OD 27 inches (1.5 inches 1/18), Tire width 9.5 inches (.528 inch 1/18), wheel OD 15.0 inches (.833 inch 1/18), wheel width 9.75 inch (.54 inch 1/18).  The only dimension I am not dead sure of is wheel width, which is more likely 10.0 inches instead of 9.75 inches.  But at 1/18 the difference is merely 0.013 inch!  Here is thee thread if interested (you may remember):

 

 

One source was landing gear door drawing 106-33301 which shows marvelous cross sections of the tire and wheel and their clearances to the retracted door.  The drawing, just like all the others, can be scaled by using whatever dimensions that are called out on the drawing.  Although not official, it's a great way to size parts.  But that drawing is effective only for the D-model.  The equivalent B/C model drawing is 73-33301, which BTW is also effective on the original NA-73 prototype!  Just mind your dash numbers.  That drawing, like 106-33301, has excellent cross sections showing tire size (but not the wheel unfortunately).  

 

Sorry for boring you if this is not new info.  I'll be watching - great work so far.  And happy hunting.  BTW,  you are of course aware of the Next Higher Assembly blocks on engineering drawings?  They are next to the title block, and are tremendously useful for navigating the drawing tree.  That in addition to the parts catalog should get you everything you want, EXCEPT mods (T.O.'s) done in the field.  I came up against this several places on the P-51D.  For instance, the ETO P-51's didn't use the Detrola radio and its long wire antenna.  A plastic cover was devised for the hole in the canopy for the antenna wire.  That part could not be found in the NAA drawings, which all show the P-51 with that radio equipment.  I cannot remember how I came across its definition, but I think I got help from the SIG. 

 

One last thing - you no doubt have found the infinite variability in these aircraft.  The engineering departments were going non-stop during the war designing and releasing improvements.  The parts catalog can get you to the right parts for each block of aircraft as long as you know the serial number of the aircraft you mean to model.   So can the drawings if you pay attention to the effectivities.  Miss Velma was a P-51D-10NA  I seem to recall, and there were countless times where I had to research to make sure it got the right part.  Make sure you do that.

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Damn, Peter, the radio and throttle assembly look full size!

Incredible!

 

Hmmm, feeling deja vu. I am pretty sure I have made these same comments during a build of a certain Spitfire...

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