Rick Griewski Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Rick Griewski said: Received email. Pre order is on Just placed my order. The $26 USD shipping cost to Michigan 48843 helps me to again appreciate the lower cost of the WNW kits. The postage was “included” in the price. It is a new ouch postage world. coogrfan, LSP_K2, BiggTim and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BiggTim said: Dang, too broke right now to do it. I'll have to wait and hope it doesn't go up!! Same! Just had to replace our dining room floor recently so looks like I might have to wait until it hits locally before I can afford to get it. williamj and BiggTim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, RadBaron said: In for a penny... my order is in too In the meantime, a theme tune: Quite a cool movie for it's time. I'll have to watch it again. RadBaron, williamj and BiggTim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BiggTim said: Dang, too broke right now to do it. I'll have to wait and hope it doesn't go up!! Quite the opposite, I expect, although that may be a while. I'll wait, I'm in no rush at all. BiggTim, Rick Griewski and williamj 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, BiggTim said: Dang, too broke right now to do it. I'll have to wait and hope it doesn't go up!! I pre-ordered, however I only did that to support Kotare. I suspect that when sprue brothers orders these. By the case you will get for slight less not more. I bet once these are available in volume norm will be $100.00 range including shipping where I paid over $130.00. Normally I just won:t do this, but for me this is a worthy exception. BiggTim, Rick Griewski, Uncarina and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamj Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Got an email from Richard, just ordered two. Now this will be a good Christmas. Edited September 20, 2022 by williamj Tolga ULGUR, Uncarina, LSP_K2 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Roberts Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Dpgsbody55 said: Looking more closely at both of the pictures of FZ-L you can make out the plane's serial number K9906. The picture I posted is clearer and it may be that the 5 character number on the tail fin is this same serial number. Whether the number was painted over in service or scrubbed out by the official censor I have no idea. Incidentally, consulting my books again, I find that K9906 had quite a long life. It was first flown on 21st Marck 1939, issued to 65 Squadronj on 24th March 1939, then moved to 64 Squadron on 17th April 1940. Next, it went to 7 OTU on 11th October 1940 then withdrawn on 18th October 1941 for conversion to PRIII standard and issued to 1 PRU at Benson. On 26th February 1942 it suffered a category E flying accident and subsequently repaired. On 18th March it was issued to 8 OTU before beingf sent to Scottish Aviation on 29th November 1942. It seems that by late May 1943 it was on Royal Navy stocks, but was struck off charge almost immediately. At the time this picture was taken, the paint scheme on Spitfires was fairly standard. IE; green and dark earth disruptive camouflage on the upper surfaces and aluminium lower surfaces. By the time of Dunkirk, lower surfaces were usually Sky Type S, though Supermarine's interpretation of that colour was usually a more blue shade than any other's. As you say, during the Battle of France, a lot of ideas were tried out to aid aircraft recognition, and given the individual unit variations, the period is very confusing for us modellers. Many such variations were still about during the Battle of Britain, so more confusion. Tuck's Hurricane V6864 (257 Squadron) still had port black/starboard white lower wings in November 1940. Cheers, Michael I have to disagree with some of what you are saying here Michael. Firstly, at the time of the 65 Squadron photo, the lower surfaces were painted in the black/white scheme. You can see this more clearly in those aircraft towards the rear of the formation. Some aircraft closer to the camera have aluminium lower surfaces on their fuselages, and the wings/lower centre section in black/white. Dunkirk was executed from 27 May to 4 June. The order to pain’t lower surfaces Sky didn’t come about until 6 June on service aircraft and 11 June on production aircraft. Spitfires operating over Dunkirk would have had the black/white lower surface scheme, in all its variations (some fully black white, some with aluminium fuselage lower surfaces). I have never heard of Supermarines version Sky - ? I know they had a slightly different version of interior green. Some Spitfires in service did receive a different shade of ‘Sky’ when the order to repaint lower surfaces came through because I believe Squadrons had not received an allocation of the new paint so mixed their own. Tucks Hurricane was not painted in the early black/white scheme in November 1940. It had Sky lower surfaces, with a black port wing, an identification measure brought in on 27 November 1940 which lasted until 22 April 1941. Aircraft with this scheme also had a yellow outline to the type A roundel on the lower port wing. The serial number on Tucks Spitfire, in the photo of 65 Squadron aircraft, has been overpainted. This measure was taken early in the war, apparently in an effort to disrupt any spying or intelligence gathering by the enemy. Sensors tended to use a more crude method of altering photos. MikeMaben and Archimedes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogrfan Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Pre-ordered thru Kotare. Can't hardly wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrennan Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 7:34 AM, mozart said: Yep, I’m also a fan of the very early Spit with the Watts prop. I have very happy memories as a young lad in the 1950s looking at my Dad’s aircraft books and the one picture that always held my attention was of a two-blade Spitfire, so elegant and graceful. This is the picture: As a child I wasn't sure whether the pilot was wearing a diver's mask or not!! Look at that pitot tube under the port wing. Sorry to point it out Mozart but the prop is a De-haviland three blade two speed jobie. Yes I too used to wonder why the pilots were wearing a diving mask. regards jon mozart and The Phantom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 23 hours ago, ade rowlands said: I was going to pre order a couple of them from Kotare directly but the shipping and taxes made it not so cost effective. No complaints, tax is what it is and a fact of purchasing from abroad. So I’ve put a couple on back order with Hannants instead. No price listed there yet but easy enough to cancel if they are too pricey when announced. Just checked the Hannants site, price is listed as £109.99. I already put it on backorder and ntend to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Too rich for my blood, for now. We still planning our Canada trip, just waiting for visas. Airfares are a killer though. esarmstrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiss123 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 At a $140 dollars CDN with no engine i'll pass Denis esarmstrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 What, no engine? Uhm, no thanks then. esarmstrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, boiss123 said: At a $140 dollars CDN with no engine i'll pass Denis 11 minutes ago, Gerhard said: What, no engine? Uhm, no thanks then. Just shows one mans meat is another mans poison, the lack of an engine for me is a plus ! Cheers Dennis Tolga ULGUR, IainM, Mark P and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gerhard said: What, no engine? Uhm, no thanks then. The Tamiya Mk IX with engine retails for more than this kit. They are not so expensive used but retail on the Tamiya Mk ix in the US is $185.00 having built three I have never spent that much on one though. Usually 75 to 80 pre owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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