chrish Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 a few hours of grinding and scraping to thin the plastic (on the left wing halves) and then punched drilled and broke the wing to get this the outsides of the wing halves, I will add some structure inside the wings as they can now be seen through. LSP_Kevin, TorbenD, patricksparks and 24 others 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themongoose Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Dang that looks good! Love the lesson we’re getting on damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokey Pete Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 So impressive, and now I've seen the techniques used in pictures, I might even give it a go myself sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subodai Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Should they not be more or less mirrors of each other top and bottom? Especially if it's flak damage? Can you have a hole in the top without a corresponding hole in the bottom? chrish and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Subodai said: Should they not be more or less mirrors of each other top and bottom? Especially if it's flak damage? Can you have a hole in the top without a corresponding hole in the bottom? I would think that would indeed be true for some of it...............I would think that internal structures like engines, spars, wiring, hydraulics, framing, electrical, and other stuff may prevent some of it from going all the way through. chrish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 Agreed, some holes do go straight through but look really wrong with nothing inside the wing! short of building lattice structure ribs to see inside and match up all the entrance and exit wounds this is acceptable to me (keep in mind I strive for mediocrity) Also, most of the "imaginary" shot isn't travelling in a perfectly straight line perpendicular to the wing, I'm imagining that some came from behind, from enemy fighter action, some from the sides as it flew through debris from exploding flack, some from the front (again, flack) etc etc. But thanks for the input! Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wegener Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I’d expect that jagged fragments of FlaK projectiles would potentially arrive from any direction and not necessarily follow a straight path, particularly after encountering airframe parts, so fragment damage could be different on upper and lower wing. Straight through holes can certainly result from hits by explosive smaller calibre rounds such as 2cm though. Looks good so far - apart from the nerve required, it looks like a lot of work. chrish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wegener said: I’d expect that jagged fragments of FlaK projectiles would potentially arrive from any direction and not necessarily follow a straight path, particularly after encountering airframe parts, so fragment damage could be different on upper and lower wing. Straight through holes can certainly result from hits by explosive smaller calibre rounds such as 2cm though. Looks good so far - apart from the nerve required, it looks like a lot of work. Thanks! Tell me about it....I hated cutting into the kit when I first started doing it! I still stop and think I’m making a mistake and will wreck this beautiful kit! a buddy used to say when faced with a challenge; “Only two things stopping me from doing that, fear and common sense” I must be short on both! Tnarg, Out2gtcha and Learstang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) A bit more chopping and destruction of an otherwise perfectly good model Edited February 4, 2020 by chrish Tnarg, Alain Gadbois, AlbertD and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 I'm still destroying the B-17 I should probably stop posting pics as they're all going to be just stuff like this; grinding out the back side to a more "scale" thickness. the sheet plastic on the wing root is the only real correction I've needed to do that would possibly be visible with the impending large hole in the upper fuselage, it's otherwise a great kit!...if you don't grind big holes in it all over the place! Using the "spatter water" flack damage method I've marked out the areas for thinning and holes; the result Thanks for looking Bil, Out2gtcha, daveculp and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 just keep the pics coming. Very nice to wee your work and figure out your reasoning (if any other than including the randomness through the water platter method) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 outstanding battle damage replication, this is wonderful Lothar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Thanks guys! I sure hope I can do this thing justice!! I've added some structure inside the wing, in the visible areas only. I notice I forgot to take pictures of the inside of the other wing...oh well. The structure has, since these pics. been painted aluminum and the wing at this point is nearly ready to close up. Edited February 7, 2020 by chrish Landrotten Highlander, Brett M, BiggTim and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnarg Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 You are going where the rest of us fear to tread. Thanks for holding up that light ahead of us and showing the way. Are any of us brave enough to follow? Really amazing work. I love the technique to determine random locations. Nothing is regular in reality, all of nature is fractal, even when someone tries to shoot in a straight line at a target. Tnarg daveculp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC Herc Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Question with all the damage down the left had side...wouldn't the waist gunners area have taken damage? Beautiful destruction so far...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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