chrish Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Thanks for looking in on me I've cut and separated various items on the control quadrant to get the impression of engine troubles, if my thinking is correct (too late now) I have #2 at throttle low stop/ shut off and prop feathered and #4 at reduced power...maybe? I've also gotten about 8-10 sections thinned in each nose 1/2 to make flack damage holes in. Thinning the plastic, in progress control quadrant with some adjustments Thanks for looking Alain Gadbois, BiggTim, AlbertD and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 A little progress, not leaps and bounds but, it is a learning curve as well. still wet from "chipping" some of the ingredients; all glued up Thanks for looking Dany Boy, Gazzas, Landrotten Highlander and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokey Pete Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 That flak damage looks awesome. Care to share your secret to creating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Stokey Pete said: That flak damage looks awesome. Care to share your secret to creating it? Thanks for looking, no real secret. My buddies call it craziness...that probably helps all right! my thinking with the flack damage is the plastic has to be as thin as possible, to that end I use a Dremel with carbide cutter (run through a home made resistor to get the speed as slow as possible) to thin the plastic then chisels to smooth the grind marks out. I hold the piece up to a fairly strong light until I can see through it in the thinned area, that location is now good to proceed with damage. I paint the whole piece with Alclad metal colours (different shades) then a coat of chipping agent, in this case Vallejo thinned with Windex, then a yellow zinc chromate-ish primer then color coat then, drill into the plastic followed by a dull exacto blade which I twist and turn to tear and mangle the hole, then wet the damaged area and do the chipping, inside and outside....my newest acquisition Mission Models paints doesn’t lend itself to this very well, it sticks tougher than Tamiya, my favourite paint. Every model is a learning experience... Gazzas, Landrotten Highlander and Stokey Pete 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Fantastic job on the damage! Looks very convincing! Alain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Thank you for looking! and the encouragement!! I have been (as always) working from on line pictures of other folks work. I was surprised by the corrections that HK models has made to every shortfall picked out by these discerning modellers!! Right down to a stringer being pointed out as being above a radio box instead of below it...I guess the company reads/ sees their reviews. Some of what I've noticed so far; Wing spar box causing a step in the radio room, the above mentioned stringer, the ball turret ammo boxes, the layout of the instrument panel...some pics. The following images were copied from another modellers work to compare to my kit Here he's fixing the bulkhead The same bulkhead in my kit; The other builder had to section the ip to get the position correct Two panels in my kit, both positioned correctly, ie moved up. The other builders step in the radio room at the top of this pic, the floor of my kit's radio room AlbertD, Out2gtcha, Alain Gadbois and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Nice of you to point out these modifications by the manufacturer. This is not seen very often. Alain chrish and Learstang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Thanks! I was also quite surprised...and impressed! I also, forgot, all the decals are finally on the 109, still needing a satin coat and antenna but nearly there. sorry for the poor pics. as usual, the model almost blends into the back ground. Troy Molitor, TAG, Out2gtcha and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Yeah, that's what camouflage does! Alain chrish and Learstang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 EXCELLENT work Chris! Really something to see them correct things on the model like that. I have a feeling correcting the nose flat spot was more time/cost/effort than HKM was willing to put forth. Looking lovely and looking forward to more! williamj, chrish and Brett M 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 basic construction continues on the B-17 Its a very nice kit...a kind of a shame to build it as a wreck. My reference states that any crew occupied area and bulkhead should be "dark dull green". From the bomb bay back and waste area bare aluminum with dark green stringers...going with that, I've painted the stringers and partial ribs on the bomb bay roof in green. I'll eventually be using the wall mount adapter to mount the model on it's "in flight" stick so I tried doing the bay up nicely. Thanks for looking USMC Herc, Shawn M, Landrotten Highlander and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrish Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 I have set the fuselage and interior aside thinking I would like to try "flak" and gun fire damage to the wings. I tied a few methods of determining where and how to put the damage on and finally came up with the idea of flicking tinted wet spatter on the wings from stiff a bristle brush in order to get random, or at least less concentrated injuries then, circling those spots and thinning the plastic from beneath to eventually tear out to match the markings on the outside surface....Makes sense? In my thinking, with damage coming from enemy action (and flack) the damage would be focused on trying to take out the engines. so most of the damage will be aimed in the engines directions. Left wing Right wing plastic thinned and starting to do the damage Thanks for looking LSP_Kevin, Cheetah11, themongoose and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Gadbois Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Great idea to get a random pattern of damage! Can't stand the sewing machine regular holes we see in movies! You are making very good progress! Alain chrish and williamj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrish Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Thanks for the encouragement and keeping me company...I may need a push now and then on this one. It was pointed out to me that the book cover shows the flight crew without O2 masks...I buggered up! I panicked a bit and finally remembered I had a resin 1/32 B-25 crew that I'd built up and painted for a dio. that was never realized. I duly went and beheaded a couple of the officers from that set and Frankenstein'd them onto this aircrew. My figure painting may have improved a bit since then but at least the heads are true to the book cover now. Thanks for looking TorbenD, Landrotten Highlander, Dany Boy and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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