MikeMaben Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 hours ago, John1 said: So, I know nothing about these guys. What kind of quality is ZM known for? You pay too much money for alot of internal details (much of which is fictional) that disappears once the kit is finished and on the shelf. I'll never buy any ZM kit except perhaps their Basic series when/if it comes out. Transformers in heat RBrown, R Palimaka, Andrea Ferrari and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacewolf Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 FW 190 A4 and now the P-51 B/C... Oh man is I a happy camper !! Jan_G and Troy Molitor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 2 hours ago, John1 said: Emphasis on "for the price". " For the price" the Revell kit is good value for money. Many people don't want, or can't afford, to spend three times as much on the Tamiya kit. MikeC, AlanG, Daniel460 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringleheim Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Jan! I'll buy every Gustav variant they make. Now if they would hurry up and get the FW-190s to market! spacewolf and Jan_G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'm excited at the prospect of a ZM Mustang B/C, as I know the quality will be stellar, but I must admit that it will probably cost more than I would like to spend, as will the HK one, if it ever materializes. I'd LOVE to see a new one from the likes of Revell, too, to offer a better range of prices. Maybe that mysterious leprechaun who designed the new Revell D can convince RoG to do one too? PhilB, Rick Griewski, Radub and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Driver Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 9 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: This is a ridiculous comparison. Revell aren't aiming their kits at the same market as Tamiya and ZM and their much lower prices, certainly in Revell's home markets, reflect that fact. The Revell 1/32 P-51D-5 is a perfectly fine kit for the price. Be sure to check who draw the parallel from the get go. Of course there is no comparison between Revell and ZM. And who Revell are aiming with their kits is beyond me actually. Especially with their Mustang. From my perspective is unacceptable to get Revell Mustang when there is Tamiya or ZM currently on the market, since I won't build 20 so to let price stand in my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraic Conway Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 hours ago, MikeMaben said: You pay too much money for alot of internal details (much of which is fictional) that disappears once the kit is finished and on the shelf. I'll never buy any ZM kit except perhaps their Basic series when/if it comes out. Transformers in heat Not always Mike. I accept their P-51D attracted some criticism for the 'imagineering' of some of the internal structure, but the Ho229 interior detail seems absolutely spot on to me. So too does the interior detail in the J7W1, comparing this to the KoKu-Fan special on the Shinden. Costwise? well a huge can of worms potentially, but with Tamiya/Trumpeter charging similar amounts for their products I think I would gently submit that ZM pricing is what you would expect. Revell kits are far more reasonably priced (at least here in the UK) and there are some pearls in their range, despite some of the views expressed in this thread. Think He162, Ju88 and He111 plus the reboxed Hasegawa Fw190D-9 . Personally I'm also a fan of their Erla Bf109G-10 despite some small proportional errors. The range of colourful markings for this variant more than offsets spinner/guntrough issues for me. And AM fixes for these are cheap and drop-in fit if you can't get on with them. Jan_G, PhilB and MikeMaben 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorgaz Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) It is a pity that such firm releases the next Messerschmitt or the Mustang whom be so just filled up, and so nobody will make such planes as Beaufighter or Ta-154... Apparently, after Ki-45 and Hs-129 personally my interest in ZM considerably will cool down that will give the chance to have a rest to my purse... Edited November 24, 2018 by Doctorgaz Jan_G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Zoukei Mura is possibly the manufacturer most connected with the modeler. They meet you at shows. They sell directly to you at shows. Tell me, how many times did you receive your model from the hands of the President of the company, the Director of the company or even the person who designed the model? The President of the company is at the other end of your email. They ask you "what do you want?" and they give it to you. These models are the models that the modelers asked for. They have a list of other models for the future and if you want them to "see the light of day", you have to support them. When you pay for an existing model, you finance the next model. Radu nmayhew, Rick K, Eagle Driver and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 One very good aspect of the internal structures in ZM kits that is generally missed is the fact this results in a far sturdier model. No risk to see a seam cracking when you are handling one of their kits! Out2gtcha, Jeff T, D.B. Andrus and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Eagle Driver said: Be sure to check who draw the parallel from the get go. Of course there is no comparison between Revell and ZM. And who Revell are aiming with their kits is beyond me actually. Especially with their Mustang. From my perspective is unacceptable to get Revell Mustang when there is Tamiya or ZM currently on the market, since I won't build 20 so to let price stand in my way. They are probably aiming their kits at people like me who are on minimum wage with a house and family to provide for! Spare cash is just a fantasy in this household johncrow, Granger Davis, Joe Hegedus and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan_G Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Radub said: Zoukei Mura is possibly the manufacturer most connected with the modeler. They meet you at shows. They sell directly to you at shows. Tell me, how many times did you receive your model from the hands of the President of the company, the Director of the company or even the person who designed the model? The President of the company is at the other end of your email. Totally agree Radu jan BiggTim and D.B. Andrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbk57 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I like the P-51B and 109G announcements myself. I am not invested in old versions of either, none in my stash of either. I have a 109 or two in 1/48 but none in 1/32. I like the ZM style of over detailing. You can always decide what you don't want to use. It is a lot more work to add if you want it. I guess we won't see any of these before 2020 though, that is the only downside. But I will get their 190 when they release one. I might get the Henshell that is coming soon but not sure. With the 1/24 Hellcat on the way from Airfix, that will be my big one for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Driver Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, Jennings Heilig said: Well, one vendor at IPMS/US in Phoenix this summer brought like 200 Revell kits with them and they were gone within hours. I guess somebody is buying them. Sure. That's why they exist, right? BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Radub said: Zoukei Mura is possibly the manufacturer most connected with the modeler. They meet you at shows. They sell directly to you at shows. Tell me, how many times did you receive your model from the hands of the President of the company, the Director of the company or even the person who designed the model? The President of the company is at the other end of your email. They ask you "what do you want?" and they give it to you. These models are the models that the modelers asked for. They have a list of other models for the future and if you want them to "see the light of day", you have to support them. When you pay for an existing model, you finance the next model. Radu And that is exactly why I will seriously consider buying the B Mustang when it arrives. It is clear to me from meeting him and from what you told me, that they care very much for what we think. esarmstrong and Jan_G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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