Pete Fleischmann Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) On 5/4/2021 at 6:45 AM, Ironwing said: Enzo Ferrari was once quoted as having said "if it can be conceived, it can be created." I agree with that sentiment. Solutions to problems will come. Just give them time to reveal themselves. Geoff Zen and the art of modeling. couldn’t agree more. Thoughts become things. Everything you see around you was first conceived in thought alone. Our imagination is the seat of creation. Once that thought is formed, it is a real thing, capable of being manifest in objective reality. keep collapsing those waveforms Geoff- You are on the path. cheers, namaste, and Maktub for good measure- Pete Edited May 11, 2021 by Pete Fleischmann Anthony in NZ and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 11:04 AM, Pete Fleischmann said: Zen and the art of modeling. couldn’t agree more. Thoughts become things. Everything you see around you was first conceived in thought alone. Our imagination is the seat of creation. Once that thought is formed, it is a real thing, capable of being manifest in objective reality. keep collapsing those waveforms Geoff- You are on the path. cheers, namaste, and Maktub for good measure- Pete Thank you Pete..all that good stuff back at ya. Geoff Derek B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Palimaka Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Just spent over half an hour catching up on your build, astonished by every step. I love the logical sequence, and how you decide how to proceed. So much to learn from following this! Great choice of a beautiful aircraft too. Richard Edited May 15, 2021 by R Palimaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 9:57 PM, R Palimaka said: Just spent over half an hour catching up on your build, astonished by every step. I love the logical sequence, and how you decide how to proceed. So much to learn from following this! Great choice of a beautiful aircraft too. Richard Richard Thank you for looking in and your kind comment, If this build in some way can help you, I would be thrilled..many thanks. Regards Geoff R Palimaka and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Greetings All As Im sure you already know, work continues on the Ryans wings. Last we spoke, I think I said I would do the tips next. While the tips did get addressed, there a was a slight detour which had me thinking about the LE's. The more I thought about it, the less I liked the idea of trying to bend sheet around the front edge or piecing it together in a way that would require more sanding. Vacforming seems like a viable alternative. It would still leave a seam but they would be small and if the and if the pulls came out good enough they should match perfectly and create a nice straight LE. A mold Basswood plug was made up and given a test shot. As a quck aside, I did make up straps from litho to aid in capturing the wing mounting tabs. The made things much more stable and much stronger. Anyway, back to the LE. The first test shot was encouraging. The shape was a bit to flat on the top and bottom surfaces and a slight reshape was done. Heres the first test shot and plug. After playing around with it for a few minutes, I decided this was direction for me. The back edge of the LE attaches to the front spar. The frong edge of the wing planform acts as a stop to keep it straight. A bunch of examples were pulled after the plug was reshaped a bit to take away the flat appearance. It takes two and a half pieces per side. The inboard side is purposel left long because Im not sure how that end will be handled. The LE is straight and align nicely event in their rough state. As you cab see, a balsa plug has been shaped for the top and bottom tip surfaces. This is the bottom wing surface..somewhat different than the top at the LE. The tips, while largely the same, differ slightly at the trailing edge. The tip on the left is the bottom. The angle cut into the TE forms the aileron pocket at the outboard end. Greg W, Landrotten Highlander, 109 and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Both were then vacformed...I know..lousy picture. While the parts havent been cleaned up or squared, this is what it turned out to be... Thats does it for this installment. Still much wing work to do. The fuselage is on its way back from John Wilkes (Tigger) in the UK and Id like to have this well along before it gets here. Hope everyone is well..be safe Best Geoff LSP_Kevin, Trak-Tor, Derek B and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck540z3 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Excellent work Geoff, well beyond my scratch skills, which are almost non-existent. What I really enjoy in your build threads along with your modeling achievements, are your descriptions of what you have done, which always make me smile ("I know, lousy picture"). I'm looking forward to more progress and more smiles. Cheers, Chuck KiwiZac and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 "We choose to do these things......" Good quote Geoff. Keep up the great work! Derek B, KiwiZac and chuck540z3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 9:53 AM, chuck540z3 said: Wow, I can't imagine all the thought and engineering that is going into this project. So neat and so scary at the same time, but in your skilled hands Geoff, I'm sure it will be terrific! Cheers, Chuck Chuck I can always count on you to say something nice. Thank you. Perhaps ou should have a look at the things you create...you aint no slouch bud. Hope youre well... Best Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Greetings All, Last we spoke, there was a wing in progress. OK, well that was brought to a screaching halt by a package I received from John(Tigger)Wilkes. I must say, I couldnt be happier. Well, maybe I could be but I cant cant imagine how. The fuselage vacforms have returned and they are excellent. That man knows what hes doing. The fuselage pulls are crisp, clean, and spot on. Really, I dont know what else to say. Im grateful for his skill and willingness to provide insights to ensure success. Thank you John. So,here is the evidence... Having never built a vacform I had my trepidations. I first tried separating the fuselage from the sheet by chucking a dremel circular saw blade into the drill press and setting the table at an appropriate height to cut the fuselage free. I wont do that again :). Dont ask. Hence, I left the table and blade in place and just used the setup to score the next attempt. This worked much better. It fits the plan very nicely. The dark line in front is where the nose needs to be separated from the fuselage and then reattached as a separate piece. The numbered lines are the bulkhead locations. The nose cap will also have to be made. This I can vacform myself. The people holes were next added. A template was made up to locate them. Incase you havent noticed, Im getting pretty good at putting tape on things. Anyway,after marking the hole locations, I got to wondering about the shape of the holes. I folded the mylar template material in half when I cut the holes but each hole was cut separately. Because of this, only one template hole was used to mark each location based off the fuselage centerline. It seems to have worked out well. Thats it for me boys and girls...work continues Hope everyone is well..be safe Regards Geoff Rockie Yarwood, Alain Gadbois, themongoose and 14 others 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Wonderful......... just terrific. Cheers, Damian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Fantastic, Geoff! Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahman104 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 That's really nice work Geoff! I think anyone that can carve two fuselage plugs and make them the same to vac form has levels of talent that I can't even comprehend! Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Can you cheat with the nose and just scribe a joint instead of cutting it off and reattaching it Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Absolutely brilliant Geoff, well done (and a big shout out to John Wilkes as well for producing first class vacform pulls for you). Derek airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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