Derek B Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 hours ago, DonH said: This is a great build, I am enjoying learning all about the tiny details on the best of the tooms. IMHO, the kink in the intake is the result of blunt force trauma applied by a technician. Probably after an internet search "what can make my Phantom go faster?" Hi Don, This feature is present on all of the FGR.2 Phantoms I (and Anthony) have seen so far, so it appears to be a feature which is unique to that mark of aircraft. Have a great day. Derek scvrobeson and Anthony in NZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonH Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Derek B said: Hi Don, This feature is present on all of the FGR.2 Phantoms I (and Anthony) have seen so far, so it appears to be a feature which is unique to that mark of aircraft. Have a great day. Derek Thanks Derek, of course you are not accounting for the fact that all the FGR.2 Phantoms were maintained by the same technician at some time... Madmax, Rockie Yarwood, Anthony in NZ and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 You live and learn.... Anthony in NZ and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/21/2020 at 7:49 PM, GMK said: The dreaded modeller’s “assumption of symmetry” strikes again! We’ve all been there, of course. Great work Anthony. Watching your great work on this is somewhat bittersweet. Always excellent to see your talented work, of course, but a little sad that all of this is what’s needed to portray a UK Phantom! Hopefully your efforts will spur a manufacturer to get one to market in 1/32 scale! Not just modellers. Trumpeters mirrored Stuka anti tank guns, for example.... Anthony in NZ, GMK and Derek B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Quick update before I head out the door to work. Just need to add the blade antennas (which I have reworked too) and the fin is done on both sides As always, thanks for dropping in. That fin took longer than expected. Soon I will be onto the intakes.... Cheers Anthony LSP_Kevin, AlbertD, John1 and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I LOVE the look of those surfaces, Anthony! You are definitely doing this conversion more than justice! Anthony in NZ, Derek B and AlbertD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Starfighter said: I LOVE the look of those surfaces, Anthony! You are definitely doing this conversion more than justice! Hey thanks Ben, that really means a lot buddy! I think sometimes I get a bit too carried away with the small details, but comments like yours are a great motivation for me. My OCD sometimes means I cant see the woods for the trees. But I figure that so few of these conversions were made that I better do a good job or I should have sold it to someone who would have. There are some chaps on Britmodeller who have been an enormous help too and have asked for a build thread there. I usually only post WIP and spend 90% of my time on LSP, but I will make an exception in this case as there are several guys who worked on Brit Toom's and know well the airframe and different mod states they went through during their lives, One blade antenna is on now and looking good, will try and get the other one on today and fill the gaps. Then it's intake time! Eeeek! @Barry @Chek and @Derek B I am gonna need your expertise soon! Cheers Anthony Derek B, Kagemusha and AlbertD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Anthony in NZ said: There are some chaps on Britmodeller who have been an enormous help too and have asked for a build thread there. Just invite them over here, Anthony! Kev Derek B, Dragon and Anthony in NZ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 22 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said: Just invite them over here, Anthony! Kev I have Kev, I think several are already members. They are a really great bunch over there and have been really helpful to me. Well the ILS/VOR blade antenna's are now fitted...It is official, I need to look at the intakes now I made new base plates for the antennas as the conversion ones were a little uneven and the edges were damaged in places. so the white at the base is 10thou plasti-card. A much nicer fit too. The shape of the antennas was refined to match the originals a tiny bit better and scribed some details on. As always gents...thanks for checking in Cheers Anthony LSP_Kevin, Derek B, Michael931080 and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Very nice Anthony, well done Derek Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Derek B said: Very nice Anthony, well done Derek Thanks Derek Dont suppose you took this measurement did you? I think this is where most of the intake widening was made?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 The hackery has started...I honestly dont know what I am doing here. But if I can figure out where the widening happens, sort the opening shape and size(depending on vari-ramp position) I can work back and sort the shapes out back to the fuse. Below is starting from the left: Kit intake with the ramp moved inwards to approx where I think it should be Real Model resin intake set for std Phantom's (beautiful by the way with corrected surface details) Wild Hare intakes which are waay too wide. Anyway, I shall get to the bottom of this. I am kinda hoping I might be able to correct the kit parts then grind off the trunking piece from Real Model part and insert it up inside the revised kit parts??? Time will tell... Cheers Anthony GROWLER 96, Greg W, scvrobeson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) Hmmm, ok Derek sent me some pics a couple of months ago of the intake measurements. Looking at the other photo's taken on the day, they were taken with the vari-ramps closed (making the measurement easier as it gives me a measurement I can work off to match the closed ramp on the kit). This equates to 14.06mm (give or take a few microns..... Wild Hare intakes are 17.1mm...way too big Edited December 5, 2020 by Anthony in NZ Derek B, Spooky56, scvrobeson and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Sorry...me again Now, Spey intakes are also shorter than the J79 counterpart. Interestingly enough I placed the Real Model resin insert up to the kit part...... Look at that Not sure whats going on here. But this means I wont have to shorten my kit part if I use this. The reason also being as the ramp geometry is different on brit Toom's and the aft part is longer to the intake lip. The start of the splitter is in exactly the same place as the 'J'. Also interesting is that the shapes on this resin intake are quite different to the kit ones. Comparing with photos, Miloslav has corrected the profile...very nice! Oh, the kit intakes are 12.87mm wide, so there really is only a mm or 2 difference. I think I am going mad.....I must be missing something here??? Starfighter, Chris Wimmer, scvrobeson and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertD Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, Anthony in NZ said: I think I am going mad.....I must be missing something here??? I think you need to be a bit off kilter to take on a project of this scope in the first place. You will no doubt figure it out and do a magnificent job. Derek B, Anthony in NZ and scvrobeson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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