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I don't think he's done one on the -1D yet. I may be wrong on that (Lord knows I'm wrong on SO many things according to my wife). 

 

Anthony,  I was reading the -1 (which does not cover the -1D by name) structural repair manual last  night and it states that the outer wing flap section was fabric covered, top and bottom.  I also remember reading (someplace) that said when the rockets were added to the -1D, a metal skin was added to at least the underside so that the rocket exhaust wouldn't burn the otherwise fabric flap.  Now whether that means the entire flap was skinned in metal has yet to be brought to light.  The internal flap structure was metal and I haven't done enough research to say one way or the other that -1D outer wing flaps were all metal or just the bottom was skinned in metal.   

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Should I "jump" and get this kit, the EXACT aircraft I would build! VMF-323 on Okinawa, 1945. As a proud former Death Rattler, these markings are a must (and pretty easy, btw)!

 

Semper,

 

Ski

In Jefferson Dorroh's markings?

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list of F4U4 loses in the service at the end of the war

 

Date        BuNo        Squadron    Origination        Destination    Hemisphere    Pilot

25-Mar-45    80802        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent.Lant.    Lt. T.F. Godding

28-Mar-45    80805        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent. Lant.    Lt.(jg) A.S. Paulson

10-Apr-45    80799        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent. Lant.    Ens. David L. Girardet

15-Apr-45    80810        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent.Lant.        

17-May-45    80851        VMF-223                    Samar        P.I.        2nd Lt. Robert Huxham

20-May-45    80912        VMF-212                    Samar        P.I.        

30-May-45    80856        SERVRON-14                Samar        P.I.        

31-May-45    81553        VBF-89        USS Antietam        Panama        Cent.Lant.    Lt.(jg) T.F. Kendrick

07-Jun-45    81028        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. R.S. Isaacs

07-Jun-45    81118        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt.Cdr. L.S. Wall, Jr.

09-Jun-45    81084        VBF-6        USS Hancock                E.Cen.Pac.        

09-Jun-45    81346        VBF-2                    Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Donald K. Hobson

11-Jun-45    81000        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        

11-Jun-45    81173        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        

13-Jun-45    80892        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        

13-Jun-45    81493        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        

14-Jun-45    81121        POOL                    Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.        

15-Jun-45    81336        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        

16-Jun-45    81217        VBF-94        USS Lexington                W.Cen.Pac.    Lt.(jg) C.W. Snyder

17-Jun-45    81116        VBF-2                    Hilo        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Louis J. Smoley

17-Jun-45    81210        VBF-2                    Hilo        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt. Richard W. Hellis

18-Jun-45    81304        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        

18-Jun-45    81332        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        

20-Jun-45    81209        Pool        Pearl                    E.Cen.Pac.        

20-Jun-45    81262        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Wake Island    W.Cen.Pac.    Lt. Nicholas M. Pavonetti

21-Jun-45    81052        VMF-222                    Okinawa        Empire        Lt. A.J. Austin

21-Jun-45    81066        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. Thomas R. McKay

25-Jun-45    80862        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        

28-Jun-45    80882        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        

28-Jun-45    81187        Pool        Pearl            Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.        

28-Jun-45    81309        VBF-86        USS Wasp        Pearl        E.Cen.PaC.        

29-Jun-45    80913        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. James B. Wortman

29-Jun-45    81018        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        

01-Jul-45    81061        VMF-222                    Awase        Empire        

02-Jul-45    81158        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) John F. O'Neil

02-Jul-45    81303        VBF-86        USS Wasp                Empire        

02-Jul-45    81605        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt.(jg) S.C. Bain

04-Jul-45    81529        VBF-150        USS Lake Champlain    Culebra Island    Cent.Lant.    Lt. J.P. Hancock

05-Jul-45    81760        VBF-150        USS Lake Champlain            Cent.Lant.    Lt. J.F. Oliver

07-Jul-45    80817        VMF-222                    Awase        Empire        

07-Jul-45    81012        VMF-212                    Awase        Empire        Operational - not enemy action

07-Jul-45    81044        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. Milton Zehr

08-Jul-45    81589        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. E.J. Heitinger

08-Jul-45    81671        VBF-10        USS Intrepid                E.Cen.Pac.        

09-Jul-45    81034        ACORN-30                Tacloban        P.I.        

09-Jul-45    81139        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. M.K. Spiess

09-Jul-45    81540        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. R.L. Hearn, Jr.

10-Jul-45    81180        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Lt. Harvey G. Odenbrett

10-Jul-45    81330        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Edward Clancy

11-Jul-45    81110        VMF-222                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. Clark Ketcham

11-Jul-45    81684        VBF-10                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. L.A. Penick

13-Jul-45    81315        VBF-2                    Saipan        W.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Roy K. Sorenson

16-Jul-45    80875        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        Cpt. Donald L. Radway

16-Jul-45    80941        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        2nd Lt. William V. Everett

17-Jul-45    80982        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        

17-Jul-45    81085        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. N.T. Edmondson

18-Jul-45    80955        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        

18-Jul-45    81073        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        

18-Jul-45    81535        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Milton L. Adams

18-Jul-45     80847        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        

19-Jul-45    81298        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        

21-Jul-45    80963        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        

21-Jul-45    81095        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. John F. McGrath

22-Jul-45    81501        VBF-86        USS Wasp                Empire        Lt.(jg) Arthur W. Anderson

24-Jul-45    80920        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        

24-Jul-45    80995        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        

24-Jul-45    81070        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        

24-Jul-45    81088        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Thomas Brett

24-Jul-45    81099        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt. T.A. Sinclair

24-Jul-45    81119        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Ens. H.F. Donnelley, Jr.

24-Jul-45    81179        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. C.L. Bausor

24-Jul-45    81319        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt. Ralph E. Boggs

24-Jul-45    81371        VMF-212                    Awase        Empire        

24-Jul-45    81185        CVG-2                    Saipan        W.Cen.Pac.    

BURNNN!

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Even as I was typing that, I knew someone would post exactly what was posted.  Yes, the -4 was used in WWII.  How many squadrons flew them vs. the number that were in Korea?  Vanishingly small.  When did they arrive in the combat zone?  Historical significance?  

 

I'll be elated - ecstatic even - if Tamiya does a -4.  But I see no historical pattern for their investing in the amount of new tooling it would require to do it.  I may be wrong, and you all may be right.  But I'm certainly not putting any money on it.

They did have some interesting "G-Symbols" that earlier F4U-1Ds did not have. Many were painted as such before the edict came to replace them with letters.

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This is a good discussion only marred slightly by whether Tamiya will issue a -4. I don't have a belief one way or the other. I do believe they could issue a -4. I believe that the -4 falls in the sphere of significant aircraft that are viable for 1/32 treatment by Tamiya. I don't think there is a sole focus on WWII for prop planes. My belief is that they are still relatively new to 1/32 and have reallly only been investing heavily in the last 10 years compared to a 40 year history of issueing aircraft models in other scales with a very small investment in 1/32 jets.

 

With that said there are a lot of worthwhile 1/32 subjects that they have not touched yet. I limit worth while to meaning subjects that they can make a worthwhile profit. I think this is one that could realistically happen, that does not mean it will or that it will happen in a realistic time frame that most of us that want one would hope for. I just hope they issue something new in the next 12 months that is an all new airframe from what they have done so far. I like the -1D release and might buy one, but like many of you am always hoping for the next big thing.

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Great discussion this!

 

Does anyone know if the outboard flaps were metal skinned top and bottom? I am guessing they were.

 

Also when did that secondary aerial lead in change to go on the port side (from stbd) behind cockpit and the mount disappear off the rudder top to the tip of the fin?

 

Sorry to ask all these questions, but I have my Corsair book by Dana loaned out.....must get it back asap now!

 

Cheers

Anthony

Anthony this is not based on sifting thru Bu Aer numbers, but more at just looking at lots of F4U-1D and FG-1D photos.

 

From what i can tell, the move to the left hand side insulator seems to have come very late in the war, and i suspect that it was a Goodyear innovation. No photos exist of the last F4U-1D built before Vought F4U-4 production took over, so i don't know what the penultimate F4U-1D antenna configuration  looked like.

 

I think that at least at the beginning of F4U-4 production, Vought continued the practice of using the post on the rudder as an attachment point for the rubber tensioner but i think later in the run they adopted Goodyear's practice of attaching the antenna wire to the tip of the vertical fin. It is also possible the switch occurred slowly by salvaging FG-1D rudders without the post and then re-attaching the antenna wire to the F4U-4 fin tip....strictly speculation.

 

A frustrating aspect of "Nailing this Down" is the inability to verify the BuAer numbers on the tails of Corsairs, since they were only what.... 1 inch tall?

 

As the risk of using this as a cop out, i must use the worn out cliche....

 

"Construction began with the Cockpit...."

 

Oops...wrong one....

 

"Consult photograph of the actual aircraft you intend to model".

 

-d-

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I don't think there's been any word officially, but since this is just a version of an existing set of tooling, and they've clearly got decals, etc done, I'd say sooner rather than later.

The sooner the better I'd say. Fingers crossed. :)

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I know... I'm psyched!  

We'll have some more Corsair decals coming along shortly!

I look forward to seeing them!

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