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Well, I'm in for at least one. My favourite plane and now I can do one in Robert Hampton Grey's markings.

 

Carl

115 or his REAL 117 ? and with or with out the canopy strengthening strips?  Just wondering, and yeah I agree, Carl it would be great to see that one done... he lived here in Nelson, my mom and dad knew him and his brother...

 

Jeff

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115 or his REAL 117 ? and with or with out the canopy strengthening strips?  Just wondering, and yeah I agree, Carl it would be great to see that one done... he lived here in Nelson, my mom and dad knew him and his brother...

 

Jeff

 

Although the identity of the Corsair Gray lost his life in is uncertain, it certainly wasn't either 1841 Squadron's  X/115 or X/117. The former had landed on USS Shangri-la (CV38), piloted by 1842 Squadron pilot S/Lt Peter, the morning of 9th August and the latter was flown by 1842 Squadron pilot S/Lt Gunnn on a Ramrod strike on 10th August, so could not have been lost on the 9th with Gray.  

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I will have to dig Stew Soward's book out again, and have a look and the ORB for 1841 to see if there is any light to be shed on this, there certainly is a ton of speculation, seems to be a very deep mystery about this subject for sure....I would suspect that anyone who was ' there' is no longer 'here' so a definitive answer may always be 'artistic license"?  Either way, a most interesting subject for debate..... I would really be interested to know what the real story is, we can't even dive on the crash site, as I have heard that the a/c has been buried by an under water land slide?   so the mystery continues............

 

Jeff

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Given that the -4 would require significant retooling - not just add-on parts, I wouldn't be holding my breath.  We now have three F4U variants, and I have a really hard time seeing Tamiya put any more into the F4U, especially since the -4 didn't see WWII service.

Um- actually it did. Check your facts.

 

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list of F4U4 loses in the service at the end of the war

 

Date        BuNo        Squadron    Origination        Destination    Hemisphere    Pilot

25-Mar-45    80802        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent.Lant.    Lt. T.F. Godding
28-Mar-45    80805        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent. Lant.    Lt.(jg) A.S. Paulson
10-Apr-45    80799        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent. Lant.    Ens. David L. Girardet
15-Apr-45    80810        VBF-89        USS Antietam                Cent.Lant.        
17-May-45    80851        VMF-223                    Samar        P.I.        2nd Lt. Robert Huxham
20-May-45    80912        VMF-212                    Samar        P.I.        
30-May-45    80856        SERVRON-14                Samar        P.I.        
31-May-45    81553        VBF-89        USS Antietam        Panama        Cent.Lant.    Lt.(jg) T.F. Kendrick
07-Jun-45    81028        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. R.S. Isaacs
07-Jun-45    81118        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt.Cdr. L.S. Wall, Jr.
09-Jun-45    81084        VBF-6        USS Hancock                E.Cen.Pac.        
09-Jun-45    81346        VBF-2                    Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Donald K. Hobson
11-Jun-45    81000        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        
11-Jun-45    81173        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        
13-Jun-45    80892        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        
13-Jun-45    81493        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        
14-Jun-45    81121        POOL                    Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.        
15-Jun-45    81336        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        
16-Jun-45    81217        VBF-94        USS Lexington                W.Cen.Pac.    Lt.(jg) C.W. Snyder
17-Jun-45    81116        VBF-2                    Hilo        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Louis J. Smoley
17-Jun-45    81210        VBF-2                    Hilo        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt. Richard W. Hellis
18-Jun-45    81304        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        
18-Jun-45    81332        VBF-86        USS Wasp                P.I.        
20-Jun-45    81209        Pool        Pearl                    E.Cen.Pac.        
20-Jun-45    81262        VBF-94        USS Lexington        Wake Island    W.Cen.Pac.    Lt. Nicholas M. Pavonetti
21-Jun-45    81052        VMF-222                    Okinawa        Empire        Lt. A.J. Austin
21-Jun-45    81066        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. Thomas R. McKay
25-Jun-45    80862        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        
28-Jun-45    80882        SERVRON-14                Okinawa        Empire        
28-Jun-45    81187        Pool        Pearl            Pearl        E.Cen.Pac.        
28-Jun-45    81309        VBF-86        USS Wasp        Pearl        E.Cen.PaC.        
29-Jun-45    80913        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. James B. Wortman
29-Jun-45    81018        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        
01-Jul-45    81061        VMF-222                    Awase        Empire        
02-Jul-45    81158        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) John F. O'Neil
02-Jul-45    81303        VBF-86        USS Wasp                Empire        
02-Jul-45    81605        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Lt.(jg) S.C. Bain
04-Jul-45    81529        VBF-150        USS Lake Champlain    Culebra Island    Cent.Lant.    Lt. J.P. Hancock
05-Jul-45    81760        VBF-150        USS Lake Champlain            Cent.Lant.    Lt. J.F. Oliver
07-Jul-45    80817        VMF-222                    Awase        Empire        
07-Jul-45    81012        VMF-212                    Awase        Empire        Operational - not enemy action
07-Jul-45    81044        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. Milton Zehr
08-Jul-45    81589        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. E.J. Heitinger
08-Jul-45    81671        VBF-10        USS Intrepid                E.Cen.Pac.        
09-Jul-45    81034        ACORN-30                Tacloban        P.I.        
09-Jul-45    81139        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. M.K. Spiess
09-Jul-45    81540        VBF-89                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. R.L. Hearn, Jr.
10-Jul-45    81180        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Lt. Harvey G. Odenbrett
10-Jul-45    81330        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Edward Clancy
11-Jul-45    81110        VMF-222                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. Clark Ketcham
11-Jul-45    81684        VBF-10                    Hawaii        E.Cen.Pac.    Ens. L.A. Penick
13-Jul-45    81315        VBF-2                    Saipan        W.Cen.Pac.    Ens. Roy K. Sorenson
16-Jul-45    80875        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        Cpt. Donald L. Radway
16-Jul-45    80941        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        2nd Lt. William V. Everett
17-Jul-45    80982        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        
17-Jul-45    81085        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. N.T. Edmondson
18-Jul-45    80955        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        
18-Jul-45    81073        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        
18-Jul-45    81535        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Milton L. Adams
18-Jul-45     80847        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        
19-Jul-45    81298        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        
21-Jul-45    80963        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        
21-Jul-45    81095        VMF-212                    Okinawa        Empire        2nd Lt. John F. McGrath
22-Jul-45    81501        VBF-86        USS Wasp                Empire        Lt.(jg) Arthur W. Anderson
24-Jul-45    80920        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        
24-Jul-45    80995        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        
24-Jul-45    81070        VMF-223                    Awase        Empire        
24-Jul-45    81088        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt.(jg) Thomas Brett
24-Jul-45    81099        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt. T.A. Sinclair
24-Jul-45    81119        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Ens. H.F. Donnelley, Jr.
24-Jul-45    81179        VBF-6        USS Hancock                Empire        Ens. C.L. Bausor
24-Jul-45    81319        VBF-94        USS Lexington                Empire        Lt. Ralph E. Boggs
24-Jul-45    81371        VMF-212                    Awase        Empire        
24-Jul-45    81185        CVG-2                    Saipan        W.Cen.Pac.    

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I think we should change the posting rules to not only ban posts regarding politics, but those in regards to impending Tamiya releases also! :frantic:

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The logic the Tamiya corperation use isnt quite the same as most people would use ie you and I.

If it "was"...we would have also seen the release of..a two seater F-16 which was also clearly laid out and engineered for production.

 

This actually pretty much supports my own position, Darren. To plan for something, then not follow through, is a whole different ballgame than deciding, after the fact, to "plug a gap", by the last minute inclusion of modifications to an existing plan, just to release something, when something else is delayed, a notion I personally see as not too very likely. 

 

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Although the identity of the Corsair Gray lost his life in is uncertain, it certainly wasn't either 1841 Squadron's  X/115 or X/117. The former had landed on USS Shangri-la (CV38), piloted by 1842 Squadron pilot S/Lt Peter, the morning of 9th August and the latter was flown by 1842 Squadron pilot S/Lt Gunnn on a Ramrod strike on 10th August, so could not have been lost on the 9th with Gray.

 

Although he did fly 115/X often.

 

As mentioned before, I have seen the log book of another former FAA pilot who had flown 115/X after Gray's death.

 

There was a group that had tried to recover/locate Hampton's Corsair in the 1980's, which was not successful. I have the article at home. Any attempts to locate it now would be impossible, as the tsunami in 2011 wiped out the sea basin in the area he was lost.

 

His memorial was also wiped out, although it has since been rebuilt. He is the only allied military airman/soldier/sailor with such a memorial in Japan.

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Actually what I was referring to is the colors of the roundel.  The camouflage I know about, but the exact "correct" RNZAF WWII era roundel colors are a mystery as far as I know.

Just be aware that in the WWII Pacific war, RNZAF Cosairs wore two different coloured Roundels.

 

Those that served as Avanced Training types in New Zealand to train RNZAF Pilots, wore

"Identity Blue" (similar colour to Humbrol 25), those stayed in New Zealand - though a couple did

find their way to the forward areas.

 

The RNZAF Pacific Roundel which was the darker Blue was worn by Corsairs flying/fighting in the

forward areas

 

I'll contact the gents at the RNZAF Museum where they hold all the technical records, and see what info

they can provide (could take a few days).

 

Regards

 

Alan

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I actually think Tamiya and there release selections add a certain spice and uncertainty to our little modelling worlds!

We never "really" know what we are going to get and there is never any "certainty" at all.

Willl a Bomber Mossie ever be released? I'm not sure anyone here would put there house on it!

Nothing is guarranteed with the big T!

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Great discussion this!

 

Does anyone know if the outboard flaps were metal skinned top and bottom? I am guessing they were.

 

Also when did that secondary aerial lead in change to go on the port side (from stbd) behind cockpit and the mount disappear off the rudder top to the tip of the fin?

 

Sorry to ask all these questions, but I have my Corsair book by Dana loaned out.....must get it back asap now!

 

Cheers

Anthony

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