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#31 Cheetah11

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 12:18 PM

Hi logan181

 

Thanks for the link. I am looking for a photo of this one, otherwise I will have to use this as a reference 

 

 

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Edited by Cheetah11, 04 December 2017 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 05:41 PM

Great detail work on the cockpit Nick.  :thumbsup:

 

I wasn't aware of another style gunners seat. The one in the link is from the Herdon bird, let us know if you find pics of it.

 

Dan


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:00 PM

Way cool! Lovin this

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 11:25 AM

Hi Everyone

 

Thanks for the interest and comments.

 

Here is a small heads up to all doing Pastor John's conversion.  I scratch build the switch boxes on the side of the front cockpit wall only to later find them on the sprue, but nothing noted on the plans. :fight:

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Some more goodies for the build arrived yesterday. 

 

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While I fetched the camera, I suffered an attack from the Feline Brotherhood. You can see the bite marks at the top of the plastic packet. :hmmm:

 

 

 

The culprit found (now trying to attack the I Phone).

 

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Happy modeling

 

Nick


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 11:45 AM

I have those Montex masks for my planned Revell G-4 project. Not sure if I'll use them, yet. John's releasing the decal sets for his conversion separately, so I'm toying with the idea of picking up a set of those to use instead.

 

In any case, you're doing great work here, Nick!

 

Kev


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 01:22 PM

Great work! Im sure the masks will come out great. Ive been toying with other schemes myself for Johns conversion as well.


 

While I fetched the camera, I suffered an attack from the Feline Brotherhood. You can see the bite marks at the top of the plastic packet. :hmmm:
 
The culprit found (now trying to attack the I Phone).
 
IMG_2355.jpg

 
 
Beautiful cat!  Russian Blue?     My "helpers" do the same. Although in their eyes destruction seems to mean the same as helping.


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 02:01 PM

Nice work Nick, Out of interest whomakes the sheet of stencil data you have there?

 

Regards. Andy


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 02:36 PM

great work and pretty kitty


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I dont suffer from AMS, I revell in it..get it...Revell


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 09:08 AM

Hi Everyone

thanks for comments and interest

 

 

 

 
Beautiful cat!  Russian Blue?     My "helpers" do the same. Although in their eyes destruction seems to mean the same as helping.

Hi Brian, no not a proper Russian Blue although he looks like one. We have a 7 year old Russian Blue. A family member phoned my wife and son and told them about this Russian Blue kitten on our local shelter web page. They went and had a look and I think you can guess the outcome.

 

 

 Out of interest who makes the sheet of stencil data you have there?

 

Regards. Andy

 

Hi Andy,

It is Hobby Decal from Korea. The decals are dry transfers, so I will see how they work. I was given this by a modeling friend when he learned of the project. I have no idea if it is still in production or how to source it.

 

 

Regards

 

Nick


Edited by Cheetah11, 06 December 2017 - 10:57 AM.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 09:12 AM

You sure know your stuff. Superb so far. 


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:48 PM

Hi everyone

 

Still no picture found of the gunners seat. I might have to make one like the Hendon example. In the mean time I have done a bit of work on the spinner and prop blades,

 

 

On the left my initial attempt. This looks good when viewing the prop from certain angles, but the wash-out (twist) hides the shape at the root . The blade on the right is the reworked example. The shape of the spinner also drove me mad. The more photos I studied of Me 110 and Me 109 spinners, the more the confusion. All the 1/32 kit and aftermarket spinners also differ. I might be wrong, but I believe there were more than one sub-contractor making these spinners, resulting in the small shape variations. In the end I picked a photo of the 110 in the German Technical Museum and tried to duplicate the shape by sanding the Hasegawa Me 109 spinner to shape. I am not 100% pleased with the result but it is close enough to live with.

 

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I used a simple reference jig for alignment

 

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End result

 

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Comments welcome

Enjoy

 

Nick


Edited by Cheetah11, 07 December 2017 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 11:52 PM

 Still no picture found of the gunners seat.

 

The pix posted by logan181 not what you need ?

 

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I might be wrong, but I believe there were more than one sub-contractor making these spinners, resulting in the small shape variations.

 

I agree, the later 110 spinners are not the same as the 109s.

It looks like they just replaced the end caps at the factory.

They're not as pointy (a technical term).


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:23 AM

Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for the reply and interest.

 

I could only find the same photos, which I believe is the seat of the Me 110 at Hendon. Both Monogram and the Aires update set in 1/48 have a different style of gunner/ radio operator's seat. I do not know if the seat design changed on later production examples, or Monogram and Aires just simplified the seat. I could not find any photos on the web of the rear cockpit, except of the example at Hendon and a restored example in Denmark. Between these two there are also differences between a number of fittings, eg the rear gun mount and armor plate.

 

Since the scheme I intend to do is a fairly late production (FuG 218 Neptun and straight flame dampers) I would like to confirm the above details if it is at all possible. At the moment all I have to go on is the config of the Aires and Monogram seat, and on this I have no photographic proof. If I don't find anything, I will do the same seat as the Hendon example. As Dan has pointed out there are so many small variances in the Me 110 G-4. The build is great but references a bit frustrating.

 

Regards

 

Nick


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:00 PM

I wonder if the seat above is not sagging due to age or perhaps was designed so that a parachute would fit in the “sunken” portion. Therefore, the parachute becomes the seat pad. Also, I wonder if this is not actually a seat out of a G-2? There are no seatbelts on the radio side of the seat indicating only 2 crew members versus the three that I believe were in a night fighter... Total speculation on my part, but I also spent some time trying to figure out the aft seat as well.
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:57 PM

Could the depth of the seat be at all due to the gunners parachute?  Im not super familiar how the Luftwaffe wore them, but I know some US fighters had deeper seats to accommodate sitting on the larger parachute pack.  IIRC, I think I remember the Luftwaffe wearing theirs on their back though now that I think about it...........


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