BiggTim Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 You should be glad we are not neighbors, because I would be at your house annoying the crap out of you all the time wanting to watch how you do this stuff. Tim airscale and D.B. Andrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 3:27 PM, shark64 said: wait a minute....is the Spit done? did i miss something? a great start on this one { 19 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said: Not only is the Spit done, be we published a book about it! https://www.klp.com.au/product/building-race-80-spitfire-mk-xive-in-1-18-scale/ Kev Maybe you meant the Mustang? airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 4:03 PM, BiggTim said: You should be glad we are not neighbors, because I would be at your house annoying the crap out of you all the time wanting to watch how you do this stuff. Tim I would welcome you as my neighbour Tim but to see how I do stuff you don't need to move next door - I regularly post videos on Patreon - 2 this week on making up that side console and what I have been doing today on the cockpit - it's but a few bucks a month to access and it is going to a good cause - ie back into modelling On 5/5/2020 at 4:50 PM, Out2gtcha said: Maybe you meant the Mustang? Indeed the Mustang It sits here waiting for my local plastics shop to re-open so I can get the display box made and actually finish it - I have some fabulous drop tanks & hangars that Steve at Model Monkey 3D printed for me and I hope if Telford goes ahead to take it there onwards & upwards lads TTFN Peter Anthony in NZ, BiggTim, patricksparks and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorbenD Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Great work Peter. Loving seeing this come together on the Patreon site too. If anyone has been hesitating following this build on the Airscale Patreon site as well as here I can so recommend the extra insight, thought processes and show and tell videos that have been posted there. Pennies for diamonds Torben airscale, Daniel460 and monthebiff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Peter, loving this build but seeing the Mustang again makes me smile! What do you etch your PE from PPE with? I have both nickel and brass, and although I have used Mr Metal Primer, the paint is still easy to damage...any ideas? Cheers Anthony airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 hours ago, TorbenD said: Great work Peter. Loving seeing this come together on the Patreon site too. If anyone has been hesitating following this build on the Airscale Patreon site as well as here I can so recommend the extra insight, thought processes and show and tell videos that have been posted there. Pennies for diamonds Torben Why thank you Torben - very kind words indeed I am enjoying making videos and hope they are useful /entertaining 12 hours ago, Anthony in NZ said: Peter, loving this build but seeing the Mustang again makes me smile! What do you etch your PE from PPE with? I have both nickel and brass, and although I have used Mr Metal Primer, the paint is still easy to damage...any ideas? Cheers Anthony Thanks Anthony So, etch primer.... a subject I have had to learn a bit about which I hope helps 1. No readily available etch primer I had found works - particularly mr.metal.. 2. It goes out of date - it has a shelf life of one year from manufacture - beyond that, it's useless 3. It needs time to actually work - it's no good etch priming and painting soon afterwards - the etch needs days to weeks to do it's job So with that said, I did etch the wings of the mustang before Alclad and used this stuff with their thinner It went on easily, kept all the detail and though I left it for about 6 - 8 weeks as I moved onto something else, it did work - the paint that followed it has real grab The website there has quite a lot of info and they specialise in this sort of thing so I learned a lot from them, and am very happy with the product All the best Peter Anthony in NZ, Dutch Man, SCRATCH BUILDER and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 evening folks a bit more done over the bank holiday... I started to work on the left hand side console as seen below - I don't have a drawing of this side so I made one from scaling multiple pictures, made tricky by the oblique nature of the photographs - note also the oval pressing shapes which would need reproducing... ..I made up a female shape as I did with the first side, but I couldn't get happy with the results - the metal curves into the hole rather than the sharp lines seen in the photo - I tried annealed (left) and non-annealed metal, but both were a fail.. so I used the drawing I made to generate it in 3D and will just add a metal side plate and fair in the join - here is the pre print image Tim sent me.. you can see the console on the left and the other bits are the artificial horizon as thats quite an iconic part (& cannot be done in etch) and the Ausgleichsgefäss that sits unfer the main panel in the one cockpit photo I have.. ..so while that gets printed I moved on to sorting the fuselage around the cockpit.. ..I scaled the Bentley drawings and marked the key lines of the rear bulkhead & floor.. ..then I cut out the sides and added scaled templates again from drawings to make sure the bulkhead shapes were correct - they were out quite a lot - the rear especially was flat sided and too narrow compared to the template so the first round of P38 filler was added to start to bulk it out.. ..once that was done, the canopy area was checked, again this was a bit out with the angle being wrong (too tall at the back), too low, and the 'footprint' shape being too fat at the rear - I started by correcting the angle to the right one.. ..then a scaled template added to make up the height and give the correct shape - I added a brass sheet tip so I didn't sand away the right shape... ..another set of templates added and the whole lot filled with P38... ..and after shaping & priming, I know this bit is right... ..also made double sure the front was right.. ..I also added the nose bit (not the cowl) and tried to replicate the unique top cowling area the V18 had - it is not the same as any A or D model so all I can do is work from photo's - it's not finished, but it's closer than it was.. ..I now had made enough changes to start to set out where things go by using the drawings to give me a scale skeleton of major reference points.. ..I will start with the sidewalls, so I cut some litho sheet that overlaps slightly front and back and made a jig for the sheet to sit in - this is both sides, on the right is the carrier, a sheet that the actual sidewall will sit in that matches all the cross section drawings and on the left a sidewall is sat on it's carrier with the areas that will overlap the fusealge taped up so I know the boundaries of the space to work in.. ..it's this sort of principle - I can keep taking the sidewalls out of the jig to align with parts etc and build up the detail until at some point they get mounted - I can then just skin over them.. TTFN Peter BiggTim, GMK, Kais and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Thanks so very much Peter! I shall track it down or a similar product from my local supplier. Really appreciate your help with this. Thanks for another inspiring update as well! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahman104 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I just love your ingenuity and forward thinking with your use of jigs to build up subassemblies.... Almost like you're making a real plane! Loving your work Craig airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel460 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Really learning a lot watching this build on here and on Peters Patreon site. Lots of great tips and tricks on how to use different materials and how to work them. Dan airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) evening folks not had too much bench time strangely, but thought I would drop in with progress - most of my time has been building up a big PE fret of many, many parts.. first up, I got a 3D printed console and made up a litho side panel - the details on this will be replaced by PE... Also made the sidewalls and added the doubler and the single stringer that runs fore and aft.. (though I made it too long, it stops at the Instrument panel but anyway.. ..now to the PE - I have spent ages trying to find drawings and have a CD off ebay and the few manuals available, but they are mostly illustrations rather than schematics and really to do this properly you need a good dimensioned drawing.. anyways - some of the stuff on here: floors radiators cockpit panels canopy panels canopy details bulkheads seat parts rudder pedals cowl flaps prop blade bosses exhaust parts ..basically months and months of parts if I had to make them traditionally.. take a look around I always print them so I can check they are sized correctly.. ..here I can see I used the wrong fuselage template for the sides so these rear fuselage panels wouldn't fit properly.. (though they mount slightly forward of this position on the seat rails).. ..the radiator parts fit well.. ..so these need to get off to PPD to be etched, but they are still in or recovering from lockdown so there will be a delay in production I also put a walkaround of all the parts and a 'how to' video on Patreon so folks can see how easy this all really is TTFN Peter Edited June 3, 2020 by airscale Shawn M, Doctorgaz, Trak-Tor and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) howdy folks Just looking at the prop - anyone got any thoughts on likely colours? Is this a black spinner & dark green blades like I have seen on Luftwaffe models or all black, or something else? Sorry for being such a noob, but I am not experienced with Luftwaffe birds Any thoughts appreciated Thanks Peter Edited June 3, 2020 by airscale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 pics aren't showing scvrobeson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Shawn M said: pics aren't showing thats wierd - the ones at the top of the page do, but these don't - and they are the same photobucket account - let me try reposting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 nope - can't get it to work - seems anything i uploaded recently fails, tried public / private / direct / IMG will have to get onto them... 109 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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