Cheetah11 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Hi Malcom Nice fix on the Mk81 bombs and the pylons look great. You might want to change the fuses as the SAAF changed over to electronic and air burst fuses in 1985. The style of fuses on the Trumpeter bombs were mainly used on demonstrations and for practice bombing. Here is an example of the air burst fuses. Cheers Nick Marcel111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Ag nee man Nick - top late . I've already painted them all. Oh well, I'll leave them on the assumption that the SAAF may have expended old bombs at weapons camps or the annual demo at Roodewal Cheetah11 and Madmax 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Here are the bombs - c'mon Nick. those little butterfly fuses look nice : IMG_6189 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr Main undercarriage bay is white. Odd thing with this Mirage (and the Iralri F-104) - note the variable fineness of deter between the port and starboard wings. One is sharp, the other looks like someone spilt a bottle of Tamiya extra thin over it - I kept the weathering to a minimum : IMG_6187 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr Edited September 6, 2020 by Mistral Edited text Lothar, Madmax, LSP_Kevin and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) OK, so moment of truth - time for paint. There are four constants in life - these are death, taxes, prostitution and the fact that no one photo of a Cheetah will show the same grey. This varies based on the lighting conditions, the camera settings and the base paint itself. I've seen photos of Cheetah Es from a light neutral grey to a very dark grey with a distinct purple hue. It also doesn't help that most of my modelling is done after work under artificial lighting conditions. So I took all the greys I had in my collection (around 30) and airbrushed each colour onto a large white plastic spoon. These were spread out and compared to the various photos I have. The best reference photo I believe I have is the one below - why is it good ? Well, look at the white of the clouds and the 707 - it's, well, white, indicating that the camera has captured the tones nicely (in my limited understanding of photography). There are also references variably to the Cheetah E being painting in some FS and BS greys. The Es were painted in a single tone dark grey, similar to the early Cheetah Ds - which is what we have in the foreground of the photo - so that was the colour I was going for, but maybe a bit lighter for scale effect. Note the distinct purple hue to the D's grey : 20200508_111049 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr Photo below taken under artificial light so does not look the same as in the pic...ho hum... IMG_6194 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr Nick kindly donated his old Revell Mirage III/V wing tanks. These are the correct diameter, the Italeri ones being 1 to 2mm smaller in diameter which I can live with - I prefer the detail on the Italeri ones : IMG_6192 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr I used the Uschi van der Rosten airbrush templates to spray on a random mottling of a box of lighter and then darker grey. This is then over sprayed with a thinned coat of the base grey just to pull everything together and minimise an over-obvious mottling. More specific weathering will still be added : IMG_6191 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr OK, I challenge anyone to tell me my grey mix is wrong Edited September 7, 2020 by Mistral Text changed Starfighter, MikeMaben, scvrobeson and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 You got the grey mix spot on, but more importantly you spelt it correctly. Renegade, Madmax, Out2gtcha and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Lovely work going on here! If you have a purple undertone to the grey, you have it right Malcolm. Pleased to see the remaining pandemic toilet roll collection is being put to good use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK MAMBA Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 19 hours ago, Mistral said: OK, I challenge anyone to tell me my grey mix is wrong Your grey mix is wrong. Only kidding of course - It looks very good to me, Malcolm. Clearly plenty thought went in selecting the mix and the results looks pretty accurate - even under artificial light. Regarding the bomb fuses - I'm pretty sure 5 Squadron made plenty trips to Roodewal. Would not want to waste expensive electric air burst fuses on each of those trips! Old stock goes first... Oh, and Hi MikeMaben! Thanks for the welcome. I don't bite unless provoked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 20 hours ago, Kagemusha said: You got the grey mix spot on, but more importantly you spelt it correctly. Thanks, but there's another way of spelling it ?? From dictionary.com : Grey and gray are both accepted in the English language. They refer to a color of a neutral tone between black and white, and can also be used metaphorically to convey gloom and dullness. However, gray is the more popular spelling in the US, while grey reigns supreme in the UK as well as Ireland, Australia, and other places that use British English. Gloom and dullness ???... Anyway, I guess with South Africa being an ex-colony, we'll stick to grey....now back to the regular programme... Madmax and D.B. Andrus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Madmax said: Lovely work going on here! If you have a purple undertone to the grey, you have it right Malcolm. Pleased to see the remaining pandemic toilet roll collection is being put to good use... Thanks Sean. One never knows when one will suddenly need the white-gold. Always be prepared... IainM, Madmax and Renegade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Thanks Black Mamba. Yup, get rid of old stock on trees and anthills first.... I gave the paint job a very gentle rub down with wet 12,000 grit micro mesh cloth to get rid of the slightly fuzzy, rough finish of airbrushed matt paints. IMG_6196 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr A bit of random airbrushing of thinned dark paint to add some more character - the mottling from the airbrush mask is very subtle. This is a new technique for me and I like the result : IMG_6201 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr All bombed up and ready for a flight to Roodewal IMG_6199 - 800 by Malcolm Reid, on Flickr Daniel Leduc, Cheetah11, Lothar and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel111 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Looks great... and really menacing in that gray. Cheers, Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngtiger1 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Nice project. I sure will be interested in this conversation as well once it’s released. Love that delta profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Thanks Marcel and Yountiger So, a bit more progress. I've done some of the detail bits and pieces. Painted the nose black, the cats-balls (yes, you heard correct) RWR antennae black, the EW antenna above the exhaust in light grey etc. The tip of the vertical stab is in white. According to Daan, this was a throw over from the 5 Squadron aircraft in WWII. Some of the aircraft had this white toned down later with a grey. And then a heavy gloss coat using Tamiya X-22 Clear - I use the acrylic version of this paint thinned with their yellow cap lacquer thinners - works like a bomb. It goes over an enamel base paint with no issues and, being acrylic, allows one to run an oil wash over it without damaging the underlying enamel paints. It's the best gloss varnish I've used...so far. After a day left to dry, the decals went on effortlessly. The decals are from MavDecals in South Africa. I assume these are printed on MircoScale decal sheet and need to be sealed with a few coats of gloss varnish to seal the ink. I use the same gloss varnish recipe as noted above. The printing is clear and in register but a bit pixellated on the lighter colours. The decal comes off the sheet almost 10 seconds after dipping in water and blends onto the surface beautifully care of some Micro Set and Sol. So happiness for a modeller who generally dislikes decalling immensely . So here they are - they need to be blended into the overall dark grey with a couple of light misted coats of the base grey : The ejection warning triangle is from the Italeri kit decals. I still need to add numerous NATO standard symbols on the underside. These were orange on the dark grey Cheetah E. Again, will be toned down with oversprays on base grey. Edited September 15, 2020 by Mistral Images added MikeMaben and Greg W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 OK so for some reason, Flickr images are now not showing. I see the LSP webpage seems to have changed ? Is there an issue linking images ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mistral said: OK so for some reason, Flickr images are now not showing. I see the LSP webpage seems to have changed ? Is there an issue linking images ? With the transfer some methods of posting images no longer work. Have a read at this link as I think this is where your problem lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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