alain11 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 nice pictures , I think one can't do more, that closes the speculation about this area ... doesn't it ?? bingo !!! in my data box Alain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Here is a link which will show you what is in the bottom speed brake well. I have yet to come across a photo of the upper speed brake well. http://www.blitz72.com/2013/02/reference-mirage-iii-mirage-v-speed-brake-well-details/ Cheers, Tom Perfect. Nice score there Tom! Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karimb Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Thanks for the photos Tom... jotted down! Eric hows life and the flying going mate? Karim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Satin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Here is the very poor fit of the nose vs the fuselage. This has taken some work to rectify, but here it is dry fitted together. Eric, Very nice work indeed so far. I may have missed something, but how did you fix the fit of the nose/radome to the fuselage? It doesn't look like you just sanded the heck out of it, so what did you do? Thanks! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hi Michael, I sanded the heck out of it to reshape it mate. Eric. Uncarina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Satin Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hi Michael, I sanded the heck out of it to reshape it mate. Eric. Ugh. Sorry I asked. Keep up the good work! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karimb Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Eric hows the Mirage build going buddy? busy flying i guess! Happy landings Karim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wow! Great work. I'm also doing a IIICZ, but am doing things a bit more OOB. Awesome job on the instrumentation/cockpit stuff! Tim W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTail Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Here are my thoughts on the speed brakes. Yes, there is a massive hole in the wing with no 'wells' so to speak. I think that unless you want to pose them fully open then there will be no need to worry about modifying the kit. They were either closed fully or just cracked open on the ground in the pictures that I have seen of the real thing. If you have them slightly open, then there would be no way to ascertain that there is no detail or even that there is a hole in the wing to viewers of your model. Eric. It was SOP to blip the speedbrakes after shutdown to bleed residual HYD pressure to zero. in the Mirage there was no intermediate position of the Speedbrakes. If you pressed the switch Aft through the lock the Switch would remain depressed with the speed brakes fully deployed. if you blippeed the switch the speed brakes would momentarily start to extend. As soon as you released pressure on the switch they retracted. Now after engine shutdown the trick was to blip the sppedbrakes and try to have them fully retracted with zero HYD pressure in the system. if you got the timing right this could be done. If you didnt then the speedbrakes could be left just cracked. The troops didn't like this as it became a trip hazard for them working on the top surface of the wing .... and a head bump hazard for working under the wing. With no HYD pressure in the system the speedbrakes didnt droop open as there was enough friction in the system for them to hold the position when the HYD pressure dropped to zero in the post flight blip sequence. you could with a reasonable amount of force overcome this friction and extend them by hand. So you will see numerous images of parked MIRIII's with varying degrees of speed brake deflection ... just depended on pilot blip proficiency Edited November 23, 2015 by TTail Whitey, karimb and dutik 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Thanks TTAIL, I reckon that answers all questions about Mirage speed brakes! Hope the panels arrived safely. Eric Whitey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karimb Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It was SOP to blip the speedbrakes after shutdown to bleed residual HYD pressure to zero. in the Mirage there was no intermediate position of the Speedbrakes. If you pressed the switch Aft through the lock the Switch would remain depressed with the speed brakes fully deployed. if you blippeed the switch the speed brakes would momentarily start to extend. As soon as you released pressure on the switch they retracted. Now after engine shutdown the trick was to blip the sppedbrakes and try to have them fully retracted with zero HYD pressure in the system. if you got the timing right this could be done. If you didnt then the speedbrakes could be left just cracked. The troops didn't like this as it became a trip hazard for them working on the top surface of the wing .... and a head bump hazard for working under the wing. With no HYD pressure in the system the speedbrakes didnt droop open as there was enough friction in the system for them to hold the position when the HYD pressure dropped to zero in the post flight blip sequence. you could with a reasonable amount of force overcome this friction and extend them by hand. So you will see numerous images of parked MIRIII's with varying degrees of speed brake deflection ... just depended on pilot blip proficiency Glad someone said this. this is exactly what i wrote before and people thought i sounded weird lol Thanks for clearing things up ! K Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Glad someone said this. this is exactly what i wrote before and people thought i sounded weird lol Thanks for clearing things up ! K Nothing weird about it mate! I knew TTAIL would come up with the answer. I thought that the flat spots on the wheels were a bit soft on the kit tires, so went and got a new toy for my workshop. I have always wanted a drill press and took quite a while to settle upon one which was going to serve this precision hobby of mine. It had to be high quality and price was secondary to what I wanted in the machine. A local online store in Brisbane http://www.mytoolstore.com.au/ had the drill press that I was looking for and after a short drive I was at the guys `store', looking at his large collection of hobby tools. The good thing about the drill press that has allowed me to do other tasks was the compound table that was additional to the press. With a milling bit in the chuck, I was able to complete the following task. Before milling the flat spot. After Here are the main wheels, left hand side has been milled. Kagemusha and Whitey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Congratulations! I have a similiar toy, also with cross table, that provides great help for a number of tasks. Not just drilling rows of evenly spaced holes or milling small parts. It works also great for milling off large resin pour plugs, especially if the pour plug forms the whole backside of a kit part. Pin it into the vise, check to have it level to the ground, then run the milling tool crosswise until you cut all surplus resin off (don't forget to put in use the vertical movement limiting device of the machine), and you achieve a nice and clean surface in no time and without using off a gazillion of sanding sheets... ... BTW, did you face short shot parts in your Mirage kit? Regards - dutik Edited November 25, 2015 by dutik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericg Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Hi Dutik, nothing as of yet. I have got a front canopy in 2 broken pieces though but will save that for a forthcoming thread. Thanks for the idea regarding getting rid of casting blocks using the new toy, will use that for sure. Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I may use the Isracast wheels--I like the look of them and I certainly don't have the amazing construction infrastructure you have! Wow! Tim W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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