Jim Mason Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I found the A1-H in stock at Microworld Games. It’s a recognized ZM dealer. https://www.microworldgamesllc.com/product.sc?productId=6574 The A1-J is in stock also. Jim Edited March 4, 2023 by Jim Mason Added more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I've heard that the Trumpeter Skyraiders were pretty good though they are the early Korean war versions. How much work would it take to upgrade them to Vietnam versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I thought it was the other way around; the Korean War era AD-4 was more of a Vietnam era Skyraider. On any case, the Trumpeter kits aren’t bad. There are some issues with the prop and windscreen, but one of Trumpeter’s better kits. IIRC, their AH-1J/AD-7 is more of a USN aircraft as they didn’t make all of the changes for the USAF J model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave Williams said: I thought it was the other way around; the Korean War era AD-4 was more of a Vietnam era Skyraider. On any case, the Trumpeter kits aren’t bad. There are some issues with the prop and windscreen, but one of Trumpeter’s better kits. IIRC, their AH-1J/AD-7 is more of a USN aircraft as they didn’t make all of the changes for the USAF J model. Actually I believe you're right , I think they were used both in Korea and Vietnam. I get confused[ happens a lot] on the breakdown of versions. I'd like to build a large scale Skyraider, holding out for someone to issue out a Fat face AD-5, might be waiting awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen_R90S Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Bill Cross said: I tried to see the cost for the Cologne store, but it wants me to pay before telling me the shipping cost. Considering a Double Ugly book from Europe would cost the same price to ship as the book, I need to make sure I'm not agreeing to pay a small fortune. https://www.modellbau-koenig.de/de/ShippingInfo/Index?countryCode=US Assuming you are in the USA, otherwise select your own country Probably not worth it and might be better to PM Barry I guess! Interestingly when I look up postal costs with the Dutch equivalent of USPS I end up with about half of the amount. Also interesting the prices of ZM 1/32 seem to be 25-30€ up in general from when I bought my A-1J with weapon set included. Jeroen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevepd Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I take it the ZM offering is the gold standard?. Clearly I don't know!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Stevepd said: I take it the ZM offering is the gold standard?. Clearly I don't know!. There are only two 1/32 Skyraider kits, and the ZM kit is a little better, so I guess that makes it the gold standard, at least on the small relative scale. Stevepd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevepd said: I take it the ZM offering is the gold standard?. Clearly I don't know!. I thought you’d be interested to see the Trumpeter and the Z-M compared side-by-side. While looking not too bad in profile, the difference is apparent when viewed from above: the Z-M is rather angular with slab sides just like the original. The Trumpeter’s rear body is rotund and is a bit clunky when finished. HTH Cheers, Quang firefly7, Rod Bettencourt, Bill Cross and 10 others 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cross Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 13 hours ago, jeroen_R90S said: https://www.modellbau-koenig.de/de/ShippingInfo/Index?countryCode=US Assuming you are in the USA, otherwise select your own country Probably not worth it and might be better to PM Barry I guess! Interestingly when I look up postal costs with the Dutch equivalent of USPS I end up with about half of the amount. Also interesting the prices of ZM 1/32 seem to be 25-30€ up in general from when I bought my A-1J with weapon set included. Jeroen If the kits they are selling include the weapons, it's still OK with the shipping (about $214 total). But Barry's package has both sets, so I will likely go with a known commodity. His is the J which I understand is the H kit with an extra sprue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 8 hours ago, quang said: I thought you’d be interested to see the Trumpeter and the Z-M compared side-by-side. While looking not too bad in profile, the difference is apparent when viewed from above: the Z-M is rather angular with slab sides just like the original. The Trumpeter’s rear body is rotund and is a bit clunky when finished. HTH Cheers, Quang Very instructive kind sir! If they're sitting by themselves say on a contest table , the differences won't be that striking . it's not enough to deter me from getting one as the prices are generally cheaper than the Z-M. But it's also a point of ,once seen can t be unseen . Your mileage may vary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quang Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, CRAZY IVAN5 said: Very instructive kind sir! If they're sitting by themselves say on a contest table , the differences won't be that striking . it's not enough to deter me from getting one as the prices are generally cheaper than the Z-M. But it's also a point of ,once seen can t be unseen . Your mileage may vary I don’t know whether one sees the difference on a contest table since I stopped doing contest in the mid-1980s, but they do make a difference on my work desk . For a long time, I used to think the Trumpeter was OK …until the day I got the Z-M (A-1H with weapon set for 115euros p&p inc.). But like you said, my mileage is different. rafju, scvrobeson, CRAZY IVAN5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen_R90S Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Bill Cross said: If the kits they are selling include the weapons, it's still OK with the shipping (about $214 total). But Barry's package has both sets, so I will likely go with a known commodity. His is the J which I understand is the H kit with an extra sprue. Hi Bill, looks like they are the normal kits without the weapons sets, just fuel tanks included. I have the A-1J with the weapons and it has a different box art. As another poster indicated this was probably a limited release. Jeroen Bill Cross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Colvin Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 I used the AMS stuff on the trumpeter kit....prop blades and wheels. I made the canvas cover behind the pilot out of epoxy putty. The ZM kit was built out of the box. Trumpeter ZM B-17, scvrobeson, quang and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY IVAN5 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Rob Colvin said: I used the AMS stuff on the trumpeter kit....prop blades and wheels. I made the canvas cover behind the pilot out of epoxy putty. The ZM kit was built out of the box. Trumpeter ZM Great looking pair of Skyraiders! If you hadn't labeled which one is which ,I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference[ the eyes are going south I'm afraid] They DO look very good, nice work! Gary Needham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Thanks Quang and Rob, for the great informative pictures of side by side pictures of ‘under’ construction and the beautifully finished models. Quang your post surely highlights the differences and is good to know and notice, then with Rob’s greatly presented finished models even though taken from a distance it is a lot more difficult to notice the variations. Like so many times once you know and realise a fault it is tricky to ignore it. However price and availability will play a huge part in which kit is chosen and built by many. Cheetah11, Bill Cross and CRAZY IVAN5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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