Stevepd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So can you actually build a GR.1 from the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon TBM Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Kagemusha said: I'm probably going to get myself excommunicated, but I prefer the strike version in these colours Very good choice! FBW 31! Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon TBM Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just found out that it will be not possible to build a GAF Tornado out of the box. The underwing hard points are the same for RAF and GAF. But the hard points under the fuselage are different. We had 13 hard points: 1 & 2 outboard wing 3 & 4 inboard wing 5,7,9,11 L/H fuselage pylon 6,8,10,12 R/H fuselage pylon 13 center fuselage pylon. Please correct me if I am wrong but the RAF fuselage pylon seems to have three hard points each fuselage pylon. Rockie Yarwood and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevepd said: So can you actually build a GR.1 from the box? Externally yes, but the cockpit will require some modifications. Others will correct me if i'm wrong but the key external difference between the GR4 and the GR1 is the addition of a FLIR sensor under the fuselage. Fitting the FLIR pod in the GR.4 necessitated the removal of one of the Mauser cannons (port side). However fortunately the option to fit both cannons is included in the kit and just omit the FLIR. The 1500 litre external fuel tanks are unfortunately not included in this particular kit release for some reason. These were the common fit for early GR.1s and also on German and Italian aircraft, but during & after the 1991 Gulf war, the larger 2,200 "Hindenburger" tanks were also used on GR.1s and these are included. Beyond that the differences are internal, and as far as the kit goes relate to the cockpit and in particular the front and rear panel displays. The main display in the pilot's Instrument Panel on the GR.1 has a large round display looking a bit like an old school radar screen; in the GR.4 this was replaced with a square shaped multi-function display. I don't think the earlier IP is in this kit so will need addressing. The rear instrument displays also differ in detail in the GR.4 and probably would depend on just how accurate you want to go; but for the GR.1 fit the round display screen, not the optional rectangular TARDIS multi-function display in the rear panel. Shouldn't be too hard to modify. HTH Rich Edited November 17, 2020 by RichG Stevepd, Rockie Yarwood, Phartycr0c and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Matt Foley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Kagemusha said: I'm probably going to get myself excommunicated, but I prefer the strike version in these colours Agreed...for a second kit maybe.....although I want to do one in 1/48th in that exact scheme but there are no decals available for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 This is the way. Rockie Yarwood, F-4Phanwell, Scotsman and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave Williams said: This is the way. Exactly! I also like the Luftwaffe Norm 76 And the Luftwaffe Experimental Scheme Scotsman, scvrobeson, Rick Griewski and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onosendai Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Next week I'll put out a couple of RAF 1000lbs (slick & retarded tail) if you want to backdate this new Tornado. thierry laurent, scvrobeson, Piero and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, onosendai said: Next week I'll put out a couple of RAF 1000lbs (slick & retarded tail) if you want to backdate this new Tornado. Oh yes! I would like to see also a good pair of Matra Type 155 SNEB rocket pod... not for the Tornado, I know, but still not covered in this scale by the after-maket. CIAO! Piero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Simon TBM said: Please correct me if I am wrong but the RAF fuselage pylon seems to have three hard points each fuselage pylon. Yes, I think this is correct - UK (and Saudi) Tornados have only 3 attachement points on the belly pylons and also use on the front and rear points the MACE (Minimum Area Crutchless Ejector) weapon ejector systems (those bumps on the sides of the pylon). Italian & German Tornados have more conventional systems with sway bracing provided by crutch arms at the side. JayBee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark31 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 bring some decals out for this one just love this camo LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orfordness Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, mark31 said: bring some decals out for this one just love this camo https://www.scalemates.com/kits/superscale-international-32-99-free-kuwaiti-a-4ku-saudi-arabian-f-15c-and-tornado--1241281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 hours ago, onosendai said: Next week I'll put out a couple of RAF 1000lbs (slick & retarded tail) if you want to backdate this new Tornado. British bombs! Brilliant Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Orfordness said: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/superscale-international-32-99-free-kuwaiti-a-4ku-saudi-arabian-f-15c-and-tornado--1241281 I've had that sheet sitting here for ages, destined for use on my Revell kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolomaglio Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Wonder if anyone else noticed the mistake in the color of the big Tornado silhouette for the BAT Sqn Special Color tail: it should be in steel, instead it has been printed in pink-gold, it think a photo shot at sunset is too blame but many other photos confirm it was just gloss steel paint. It is a pity since more than half of the decals sheet is occupied by these two large silhouettes. scvrobeson, discus and Piero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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