hworth18 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I am considering picking up a Bf110G nightfighter kit or just a 110 in 1/32 scale but I'd like to know what to look at and what to stay away from? Thanks!!! Blenheimboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The Dragon 110 kit is excellent but the instructions are TERRIBLE. Blenheimboys, hworth18 and LSP_K2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The Dragon/Cyberhobby kits are excellent, but the instructions can be a bit wonky, and they don't do a G. The Revell kit is very old with limited detail and poor fit. Unless you really, really must have a G, get one of the Dragon/Cyberhobby 110s. Personally, I like the D/E nightfighter and the 110E Trop boxings. hworth18, Blenheimboys and Bill Cross 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozart Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) But Rog (Artful69) knows of a G4 conversion in the pipeline for the Dragon/Cyberhobby Bf110. I've got a 110E which I'm keeping ready for the G4 conversion, hoping it may be sooner rather than later! Max Edited February 28, 2016 by mozart Tony T, Out2gtcha and Blenheimboys 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegallacci Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The old Revell kit can be built up to be okay, but as it very much a '70s Revell product(simple, crude, less accurate), for things like the cockpit, figure a scratch-built replacement. For that matter, the canopy is a mess and the props are way small. Raised panel lines and minimal detail throughout. Built one OOB when it was new and it don't look awful, but my more recent attempt has been a time hog for all the work it needs. Blenheimboys and Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 In the absence or unlikelihood of a Dragon G, anyone know the likely damages for the G-4 conversion ? I have a weakness for night-fighters of any denomination in the flying department, but the Dragon tips the scales towards expensive to begin with. I shied away from the ancient Revell Bf 110 G-4, but have a Beaufighter re-pop which is looking for VI.f / AI MK.VIII thimble and tail plane mod which might satisfy for now. Similarly wondering how long it'll take Revell to put out a Ju 88 C-6 or G derivative from its top-notch A-4 kit. C-2 parts to hand for the A-1 so perhaps that needs moving on. Tony Blenheimboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis252 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 My knowledge of this subject is basically nil, what are the differences in these marks of those aircraft and the Dragon kits? thanks. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Howie Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 In short..different tail, different engines/cowls...nose...basically only the core fuselage wing and stabiliser are the same most everything else is modified. Blenheimboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Clunkmeister nailed the instruction issues perfect but there are enough builds on line now to help sort these issues out. I'd suggest just throwing the instructions away completely, they cause more grief than having none at all Blenheimboys and FunkyZeit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I've heard of damning with faint praise, but that is just plain damning!!!! No problem with that, since those instructions clearly should be more properly called DEstructions... Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 For what it's worth, here is my effort on this kit http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=28875 hworth18 and Blenheimboys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smitty44 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Here you go gents.It's the C-7 but it'll work for them all I imagine. http://www.hyperscale.com/2008/features/bf110c732erratabg_1.htm Blenheimboys and hworth18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Generally, the C/D/E models are pretty similar. Same engines, canopy, armament. The C was mostly a heavy fighter, and later fighter bomber with a belly bomb rack. The D was pretty similar, but was mostly a long range escort, and was essentially a C with various tanks, either under the belly or under the wings. The D was also usually seen with an extended tail that housed a dinghy for over water flights. The E was basically a fighter bomber with bomb racks under the fuselage, and racks under the wings that could carry tanks or bombs. The main visual feature of the E was the addition of a small square intake on the tip of the nose. The main wheels were also a little larger. The F was where things really changed with the addition of more powerful engines. Whereas the C/D/E models had a blunt spinner and narrow prop blades like the 109E, the F got a rounded spinner with wider blades like the 109G. Also, the engine cowling on the F gained a large bulge on the top. The G introduced further changes like heavier nose armament, different rear armament and rear canopy, and eventually larger rudders. BTW, you can see the instructions for many of the Dragon kits here: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/search?typ1_c=102&cat=&state=&sold=0&sortid=0&searchkey=1%2f32+BF+110 Edited February 29, 2016 by Dave Williams Blenheimboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I've only worked on one Dragon Bf 110 (the C-7), but my impressions are very favorable. I feel that with some paying attention, a really decent looking finished model can be had. I'll be putting that theory to the test when I resume work on mine, probably in April or so. Blenheimboys and hworth18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Stay away from the Revell Kit. And I love love love old Revell Kits but this one is just a pig in a box. I started to make a passable one, then gave up and bought a dragon kit. My attempt: https://www.flickr.com/photos/shawnmanny/sets/72157622869700809/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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