TwoHands Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Is it me or has this panel line pre-shading business gone way too far??? Some of these planes look like a quilt! MikeC, Rick Griewski, RLWP and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menelaos Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) I never use preshading for my models.... I just dry brush the edge of some panels with a color darker as the basic color and some dirty black. This is also the reality for often opened panels where their basic paint is getting off...then the crews oversprey the panel edges with fresh paint and this is in the most cases darker.... Edited August 18, 2017 by Menelaos LSP_K2, FunkyZeit and Rick Griewski 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxim Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Depends on the look you want. Preshading the USN camo on the F-14 for example looks good in moderation. Other aircraft look much better with just a panel line wash which is what I personally prefer. End of the day it's your model and you may do whatever you like. I do think some models are way overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squizzy 78 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think preshading is fine, but to achieve a realistic finish, it should only just be visible once the colour coats are on. Good quality references are the key to knowing how far to take it. Rick Griewski, AdamR, LSP_K2 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradG Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I like it on a model if it's being used to try and replicate what someone's seen in a picture. Shading the panel lines or just in general just because it's what you do, sometimes doesn't look realistic. MikeC, FunkyZeit and LSP_K2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peterpools Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Both pre shading and post shading have gone way too far as aircraft just don't weather like that. Same can be said for the most part on bleaching only in the center of panels. Panel lines will collect and show grease, grime and shoot but we tend to over do the panel lines no matter what the degree of weathering. Accentuating panel lines with a panel line wash should match the degree of overall weathering Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I like a "little" tonal variation; to me, it makes the finished aircraft look less toy-like. From what I've seen, it's often overdone. Rick Griewski, Menelaos, FunkyZeit and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I agree that I like a panel line wash, but generally Ive moved away from large harsh pre-shading except for certain specific looks Im going for. Black basing seems for me, a good way to get some tonal variation without specifically going with pre/post shading. This is especially true for me for solid single colors. CANicoll, Luca, Bill_S and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I too, believe there's an all too common "monkey see, monkey do" mentality that frequently gets carried to a ridiculous extreme. However, each individual will ultimately settle on what he believes accomplishes the type of finish he wants, and that's perfectly fine with me. We don't necessarily need to like it, and I frequently do not. FunkyZeit, Gazzas, Out2gtcha and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunkmeister Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Both pre shading and post shading have gone way too far as aircraft just don't weather like that. Same can be said for the most part on bleaching only in the center of panels. Panel lines will collect and show grease, grime and shoot but we tend to over do the panel lines no matter what the degree of weathering. Accentuating panel lines with a panel line wash should match the degree of overall weathering Peter Agreed 100% My personal opinion? Modelers should spend time at on the ramp. Seriously. Are we modeling aircraft to be accurate representations of the real thing, or are we artistically interpreting what we THINK it should be like? There's room for both of course, but I'm all about realism. Peter, a few years back, you built an RCN Sea Fury. You built it spotless, clean, shiny, and perfect. Not exactly how it would be if it were embarked on an RCN carrier while on patrol, but as far as the historical record is concerned, RCN Sea Furies were always spit shined and perfect while having their pictures taken, so yours was a dead on accurate representation. (I loved that build, still do) People need to go to an airport and take pictures. Lots of pictures. I think many of us would be really surprised at how little wear and tear shows from 100 ft away. Personally, that's how I roll, YMMV. Edited August 18, 2017 by Clunkmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I like a lot of things that came out of the so called Spanish style, but super heavy panel lines are NOT one of them. I agree that airplanes dont generally get this look, but on the flip side of the coin, I have spoken to a lot of modelers who like it because it adds an interesting look, not necessarily that it is accurate the the 1:1 they are representing. Each to their own as to what they like, but I cant say personally I like it. MikeC, Gazzas and FunkyZeit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I like a lot of things that came out of the so called Spanish style, but super heavy panel lines are NOT one of them. I agree that airplanes dont generally get this look, but on the flip side of the coin, I have spoken to a lot of modelers who like it because it adds an interesting look, not necessarily that it is accurate the the 1:1 they are representing. Each to their own as to what they like, but I cant say personally I like it. I'm tempted to post a photo here that seems to exemplify the "weathered to death look", but it really doesn't seem appropriate to do so. FunkyZeit and Out2gtcha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clunkmeister Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Nah, we've all been guilty of it a time or two. I have my first LSP build, a real hideous Tamiya Spitfire I 'weathered' with a brush and mop that I could show... Edited August 18, 2017 by Clunkmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Personally I never pre-shade. Seems like a waste of time, effort, and paint. But who am I to say......Different strokes for different folks as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durangokid Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I've seen models with heavy panel line shading that look fantastic, not realistic but look great nonetheless. Isn't it up to the modeler how they want to paint their projects? I see this a lot with armor guys. Mig has some killer looking tanks that even he admits aren't realistic to scale. A lot of things get over done because at this scale, the affects are difficult to capture from the real thing. In the end it's really up the the modeler and the look they are going for. Jeff T, Out2gtcha, FunkyZeit and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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