19squadron Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) And here by comparison and without pointing to any issue is a Kotare built from the box? Edited January 5 by 19squadron addition of pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, DonH said: Let it go. Agree to disagree. I apologise, my mistake, that is the original Supermarine drawing actually from 1935. It is the one piece wing with no separate wingtip which has a 3 1/2 inch wider wingspan [ie the same span as K5054] than the drawing with the detachable wingtip used for production aircraft. Edited January 5 by 19squadron Pete Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonH Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, 19squadron said: I apologise, my mistake, that is the original Supermarine drawing actually from 1935. Thank you, I appreciate it. I was not aware of the difference, it is great to learn new stuff about this lovely aircraft. Pete Roberts and 19squadron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) For Clarity's sake ;- K5054's wingspan is given variously between 37ft and 37ft and 1/2 inch, the same as the single piece Spitfire wing in drawing MAC 2620 [37ft] in 1936 the Airmin issued a requirement for a redesign for both Hurricane and Spitfire wings for detachable wingtips, since it was felt that they were going to get damaged in service and a wingtip was an easier and cheaper remedy rather than an entire wing change. The result was the production wing with a detachable wingtip and a reduced span of 36ft 10inches for the Spitfire. This wingtip was of the form shown in the photograph I posted and has 4 radii in the wingtip curve. K5054 had two pure curves and a simpler shape. Edited January 5 by 19squadron Archimedes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2gtcha Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I for one think the Kotare release seems great. I'm by far and away no Spitty expert, but it seems so far top of the class as far as 1/32nd offerings go since absolutely no model is perfect. Having built a couple other spit models (obviously not the same mark) the Kotare release seems a breath of fresh air comparatively. Of course I'm one of those modelers who are not really bothered by any of the minutiae being off. Kagemusha, MikeMaben, Iain and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Roberts Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I think it is great to get the finer detail on these subjects. Some of us will use it, some will be happy with out-of-the-box, and some in between. But at least having that information gives us the choice. My thanks to all who are contributing here. Iain, 19squadron, Archimedes and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Mike Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 This kit seems to be the benchmark for early Spittys. Johnny Cloud, Iain, DonH and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'd be very happy to see more images of the Hasegawa model shown earlier to illustrate a point. Did you build that Simon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 hours ago, geedubelyer said: I'd be very happy to see more images of the Hasegawa model shown earlier to illustrate a point. Did you build that Simon? I believe it's a build by Arie Donker, featured here back in Sep '13: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=1699 Iain Out2gtcha, geedubelyer, LSP_K2 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Iain said: I believe it's a build by Arie Donker, featured here back in Sep '13: https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=1699 Iain Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, geedubelyer said: I'd be very happy to see more images of the Hasegawa model shown earlier to illustrate a point. Did you build that Simon? geedubelyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, geedubelyer said: I'd be very happy to see more images of the Hasegawa model shown earlier to illustrate a point. Did you build that Simon? geedubelyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, geedubelyer said: I'd be very happy to see more images of the Hasegawa model shown earlier to illustrate a point. Did you build that Simon? geedubelyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'm sure readers could easily have clicked on the link I provided to see the images - or if you'd posted a link originally. But it's a lovely build, isn't it! If you're arguing that the Hasegawa IIa (that was based on their earlier Vb with retooled wings - and released at one point by Revell, prior to their newly tooled, but poor, 2014 Mk.IIa release) is a better starting point for an early Spit than the Kotare kits, then you've completely lost me I'm afraid. I built several of the Hasegawa IIa kits back in the day - it was a big step forward in the scale for early Spits at the time - that build really isn't straight kit (the wing and fuselage riveting/engraving for a start) - and the Kotare kits are a far better starting point than the Hasegawa kits in my humble opinion. And I'd be surprised if you find the Hasegawa kit (or the Revell release of it) for £20 these days. Blue skies, Iain LSP_K2, Christa, Out2gtcha and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Erik Locke in front of R6885 1940. P8209 was a MkIIa that was never issued to either 41 or 611 Squadrons, but forget that it is a very nicely made model from a well-established and affordable kit. Edited January 6 by 19squadron addition of pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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