nmayhew Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Kagemusha said: Ebay, but still not cheap. good reference material is rare - 90% of most of the books I see are garbage rehashes of rehashes etc - but ultimately worth it i have this book and knowing the contents,and the fact that it's out of print, I'd say that's a fair price as to kit bashing, it depends how skillful you are, and how much you want to spend, but bottom line is there is no decent V out there i suggest making peace with Hobbyboss' offering for a Vb - and even then you will need replacement canopy parts from a later marque (I suggest Revell's IX given it is dirt cheap) a Vc is harder all round, though a member here recently did a great build i think but i cannot recall who did it, sorry best of luck, and buy that book! Troy Molitor and John1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 7:51 AM, PhilB said: No, there is evidence from people who were there at the time. Accounts from ground crew and others. Research from historians like Brian Cull and Brian Cauchi who have spent years on this subject. I'd dig up my father so you could argue with him but I'm afraid he was cremated. You might want to look at this documentary about returning a Hurricane and Spitfire to Malta for the anniversary a few years ago. The blue paint is mentioned at around 21 minutes in and why they went to the trouble to fully repaint the Spit. Nice video. Anyone has an idea what type of blue (and what modelling color would be a match) was used on BM597 for Merlins over Malta ? Sincerely Pascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Got a reply on facebook from Merlins Over Malta : BS110 roundel blue. What do you guys use for roundel blue ? Tamiya, Vallejo, Humbrol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Sovereign Colourcoats ACRN31 WW2 Roundel Blue Cheers Dennis Edited October 19, 2020 by dennismcc Spelling Pascal and John1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpgsbody55 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Jennings Heilig said: Then there's the mysterious, as-yet unexplained "bump" on the outer wing top surface that's only seen on the Malta birds... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na8v-nuvUnk No bump here. But more googling found this: You can see a bump behind the un-hatted armourer sat on the wing. Not exactly outboard. Is this what you're referring to? Could this be a clearance bulge for the second cannon that could be fitted to the C wing that Malta Spitfires had?? Cheers, Michael Edited October 19, 2020 by Dpgsbody55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 12:17 PM, Dpgsbody55 said: True, but in this case and in the absence of any documented history, I think the best thing is to go with the story as related by Brian Cauchi. Like his models, I'm sure his account is very well researched. Cheers, Michael That name sounds familiar. Was he ever a member here at one time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Yes Brian was a very active member many years ago. LSP_K2, Out2gtcha and D Bellis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, thierry laurent said: Yes Brian was a very active member many years ago. OK, thanks. I thought I'd heard the name before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamF Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 That bump I presume is nothing to do with any rushed or improvised modification to extend their ferry range in getting them there? Housing an inline fuel pump for example? Just guessing though. Graham nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) No bump here, caption says HMS Eagle bound for Malta 1942. Or is this a B-wing ? : But on this one, there's something that looks like a bump (USS Wasp, no date) : Not the greatest photo, but no bumps here : Colorised from a B/W photo I presume, but interesting : Edited October 19, 2020 by Pascal Uncarina, thierry laurent and John1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 First one's a B, second a C, and that bump seems to be there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) What about this one ? Are those bulges inside the roundels ? : Very visible in this photo : Edited October 19, 2020 by Pascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpgsbody55 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 My thinking is that it has something to do with the guns. Some Spitfires Vc's were sent to Malta carrying 4 20mm cannons and 4 0.303 machine guns. On arrival, the outer cannons were removed as Spitfires with the C wing typically flew with 2 cannons and 4 machine guns. However, I'm also wondering if any were fitted in the field with 0.5 inch machine guns in place of either or both of the .303's?? That might have necessitated such a bulge. Cheers, Michael PhilB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) I'll have to check my refs but IIRC the later spits that had the 303's replaced by 50 cals had them mounted inboard of the single cannons closer to the wing root but I'll have to check on that. EDIT. The E wing appeared in Autumn 1944. Removed the four 303's and mounted a 50 cal in the inner cannon position leaving a single cannon in the outer position. So not on any Malta spits. Edited October 20, 2020 by PhilB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennismcc Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Found this on Britmodeller, sadly Photobucket has messed with the photos. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/46712-outer-wing-bumps-on-spitfire-vc/ And this one https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234967425-spitfire-mk-vc-wing-bulge-question/ Cheers Dennis nmayhew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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