JayW Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, geedubelyer said: is there any mileage in scratchbuilding the whole wing? Hmmm - you want to add another year to this project? A very intriguing thought Guy. The biggest problem would be to attain a good match with the center wing, both its trim or its contour. Got any ideas? The rest would be a job for Peter Castle! daHeld and geedubelyer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Haha, yes. I just don't want this journey to end! How do the kit wings look? Are they reasonably accurate in silhouette and cross section? If so, I'd use them as a template and employ techniques similar to how you and Peter have created wing forms before. Formers + balsa or filler? Skin with litho. Roberts your Dad's brother and Fanny's your Mother's sister. For a man with your talent and joie de vivre, a week, tops...... HTH Edited April 20 by geedubelyer daHeld, JayW and Oldbaldguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 hours ago, JayW said: The wing - I have done one thing only on wings so far, and that is to attempt to break one apart (a top half and a bottom half). I failed. Did that a few months ago. It is glued together so firmly that I am afraid I will destroy it to get it apart. So that is an issue. Think about doing it destructively with minimum damage. If you haven't already, try using a jeweler's saw. The blades are available super thin so you won't have to worry about a large gap. Just throwing this out for consideration. Derek B, daHeld and JayW 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Wow, what a difference from where you started. This truly is a labor of love build. Matt daHeld and JayW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 14 hours ago, Woody V said: If you haven't already, try using a jeweler's saw. Woody I have the Tamiya thin saw - is that about the same? daHeld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 stellar... JayW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingman777 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I vote to leave the gun bays closed and wings unfolded, keep it more simple and let the work just speak for itself. daHeld, geedubelyer, cmayer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody V Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 6 hours ago, JayW said: Woody I have the Tamiya thin saw - is that about the same? Not really. A jewelers saw is like a coping saw, but with a very fine blade. daHeld and JayW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 I'm doing a new rudder - I will post progress soon. Meanwhile - you know squadron commander Tom Blackburn was responsible for the skull and crossbones emblem VF-17 was know by. Not sure when it happened relative to adoption of the emblem, but VF-17 was also known as the "Jolly Rogers". That name stuck, and Navy fighter squadrons have used it ever since. Here is another in series of totally bad-to-the bone naval fighters that have sported the skull and crossbones, and the name Jolly Rogers: Enjoy. daHeld, CODY, JeepsGunsTanks and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybach_man Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/21/2023 at 2:31 PM, JayW said: Woody I have the Tamiya thin saw - is that about the same? Peter does some really fine thin photo etch saws JayW and daHeld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, Maybach_man said: Peter does some really fine thin photo etch saws At this point, I am just beginning to formulate a wing plan. The way I see it currently, and this might change, I am going to use the existing wings and not do alot of scratch building. And importantly, I think I will not split them apart, which would mean I don't need the jewelers saw. The more I research the wing drawings and inspect the wings I have, the more I like them. The shape and planform appear to be pretty close, and the thickness is as well. Also, panel lines are not far off. Soon I will post a much more detailed plan for comments. At this juncture though, I think it is going to involve a scratch built aileron and flap, dremmeling out the areas where fabric skin is present (I will use 0.005 inch thick plastic sheet like I did on the elevators), and add rib caps in those areas for the sheet to lie on top of, hopefully to give it a bit of drape. The rest, I will skin in aluminum. That will include the entire leading edge forward of the spar, the gun bays, and the inboard end at the wing-fold region. We shall see. Edited April 25 by JayW JeepsGunsTanks, geedubelyer, TankBuster and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Sounds like a plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Super-Hornets too. Engage! Jim Barry, daHeld and geedubelyer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayW Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 (edited) Just a couple of shots of the new (and hopefully) improved rudder: Note the thin plastic skin where the original one has doped tissue. The major steps: 1. Basic skeleton (done) 2. Basic skin (1 of two done) 3. circle section leading edge - ribs and skin (in process) 4. Balance weight tower skeleton (in process) 5. P-38 filler - balance weight tower 6. Tab skeleton, skin, drive rod A good scratch built rudder is a large project indeed. I have checked and double checked everything I do, every measurement I make, trying to make sure it is perfect. So far so good..... Later. Edited April 27 by JayW Jim Barry, Landrotten Highlander, Shoggz and 23 others 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Alot of work for sure Jay but judging by the results you've shown you'll be happy you did it. Great job so far. daHeld and JayW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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