Iain Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Work of art - amazing... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Crikey that's good! Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thank you very much, guys. It's great that you like what I'm doing. I've made up my mind how I will do the intakes. Basically I'll build a core from cardboard to which I will glue strips of styrene that then form an outer shell. Once the glue has cured I'll soak the cardbord in water and it will become "mushy". This will make it easy to remove it from the core. Then I will cut the core in two halfs (lengthwise) in order to sand the inside of the intake. Then the inside will be foiled and riveted. Now, this won't be a seamless sucker, but if you look at the inside of the real thing you'll see that there are very pronounced panel lines and rivets. If you think that this sounds like a lot of work, then you are perfectly right. But I've done a "proof-of-concept" intake (well, part of an intake, anyway) already and it works! Cheers Rainer stusbke, Greg W and Derek B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Thank you very much, guys. It's great that you like what I'm doing. I've made up my mind how I will do the intakes. Basically I'll build a core from cardboard to which I will glue strips of styrene that then form an outer shell. Once the glue has cured I'll soak the cardbord in water and it will become "mushy". This will make it easy to remove it from the core. Then I will cut the core in two halfs (lengthwise) in order to sand the inside of the intake. Then the inside will be foiled and riveted. Now, this won't be a seamless sucker, but if you look at the inside of the real thing you'll see that there are very pronounced panel lines and rivets. If you think that this sounds like a lot of work, then you are perfectly right. But I've done a "proof-of-concept" intake (well, part of an intake, anyway) already and it works! Cheers Rainer Sounds good Rainer Intakes are always hard to make no matter what method you use. Alternatively (and I have not yet tried this) you could get hold of some water soluble air drying modelling clay (DAS make a goog range:http://www.eckersleys.com.au/products/das-air-dry-clay) which you could either overlay on your cardboard intake core or even a smaller diameter balsa wood core. Once dry, you could then plank it with plastic card then soften/dissolve the clay in water to allow you to remove the core. This should leave you with pretty much a seamless intake. Derek Edited February 9, 2014 by Derek B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hi Derek, water soluble clay sounds interesting. I've got some air drying modelling clay, but It's not water soluble once it is completely dry... Hmm, gets me thinking. Water soluble clay would indeed open up some nice possibilities. Thanks for the tip. Cheers Rainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 That is most impressive, stunning work so far! I really hope to see more progress on this beauty soon! Rainer Hoffmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripaman Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hi fellow modellers, I hope you all had a merry Christmas with lots of turkey (allways remember: you don't gain weight between Christmas and New Year but between New Year and Christmas!) and even more styrene or resin under the tree (me, I got 2 square meters of styrene sheet and a nice selection of Evergreen rod, tubes and channels ) Derek, Hakan, Kev, Richard, Loic, Maru: Thank you very much for your kind comments and for your interest in this project. It's been a while since the last update but I didn't want to bother you with more frames and stringers. It gets a bit boring... But I did make some progress and here is where I am at the moment. Here is the aft section that will house the afterburner can. Next is the fwd mid section, the intake section: And here two views of the cockpit section: The hatched areas (cockpit tub and NLG well) have been pre-cut and some gentle persuasion with a knife should be enough to remove them once the skin panels are glued in place. Here is the complete structure of the port fuselage half: And just to show you how big that bird actually is I've included my clumsy hand in the next pic: I had to modify about half of the frames (as compared to my original drawings) to get the transitions between them as smoth as possible and to match the pictures I have. A kingdom for correct cross section drawings! But I think that I've captured the general shape of the Viggen reasonably well if not entirely correct. As long as it looks like a Viggen I'll be happy enough. Next is the intake. I've not yet made up my mind how to do it. Those suckers suck (pun intended)! Once I've found a solution for the intakes I'll just have to muster all the mojo I can to do it all over again for the starboard side of the fuselage . How I wish to do some details. That is so much more fun than frames and stringers... Thanks for looking Rainer Blimey Rainer that does look very good, and it does make for a big model when you see your hand in the picture, Regards Richard Rainer Hoffmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyZeit Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Insanity! Amazing work I can't imagine the frustrations Rainer Hoffmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dergrunepunkt Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Well, I cannot say how much I like your job, but what really impress me the most it's the precision you're showing, keep up this really excellent job. Rainer Hoffmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks again for your continued interest in this poroject, gents. It's very motivating for me! Well, I didn't have much bench time lately so this is just a very small update, basically to show you that I'm still working on this Viggen. I startet the intake construction. The pic below shows the cardboard structure that will be covered with styrene strips that then form the outer shell of the suckers. Once the shell is complete I will cut each intake into two parts lengthwise, remove the cardboard structure and sand the insides smooth. Then the inner surfaces will be foiled since all my references show NMF finish of the insides. Sorry for the messy work bench, but that's how it looks after cutting all the frames for the fuselage. All those styrene scraps will be used to make liquid sprue (should be called "liquid sheet" in this case, because the scraps are all from styrene sheet ). Thanks for looking. Cheers Rainer Edited February 9, 2014 by Rainer Hoffmann Greg W, Derek B, Lars Befring and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) A tidy work bench is a sign that you have nothing better to do than tidy your work bench. A messy work bench however, is a sign of manic progress!! I know which I prefer.... Tim Edited February 9, 2014 by wunwinglow Rainer Hoffmann and Derek B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripaman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 excellent idea on the intakes Rainer Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 A tidy work bench is a sign that you have nothing better to do than tidy your work bench. A messy work bench however, is a sign of manic progress!! I know which I prefer.... Tim Manic progress? No, not quite. And I should tidy my work bench because it takes so long to find the tools... excellent idea on the intakes Rainer Regards Richard Well, I hope it is a good idea, Richard. It's the only one I came up with... Cheers Rainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Incoming! Anything Recce Viggen (hope so): - dutik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Part 2: - dutik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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