Hawker Hurricane K5083: the prototype

[mozart]

12 hours ago, Alain Gadbois said:

Avoiding scribing the panel lines and using directly cut foil panels is a brilliant trick! 
Looking forward to see the result!

 

Alain

Added to which, I'm rubbish at scribing!  A bit like decals, anything which gets me out of having to do it is worth a punt. 

 

10 hours ago, MikeMaben said:

Impressive work I must say Max 

Thanks Mike....coming up shortly an exploration into resin casting!  Brian Fawcett hasn't been well recently and I'm not sure about the availability of the "dog kennel" (his wife won't let him go near the workshop!), so I'm going to see how I get on casting a copy of my one and only existing dog kennel....strictly not ethical I know but "needs must!"

 

9 hours ago, geedubelyer said:

C'mon Max! I'm itching to see more of this. What's taking you so long? 

 

 

Seriously though, great start so far. I am genuinely eager to see the foiling go on. There's nothing better for giving the effect of metal than real metal. 

 

Yep, too much time spent today with the chainsaw out in the garden....all work and no play!  But as you'll see below Guy I've not been too idle:

 

So, first off.....experiments with foil cutting using the Silhouette machine.  Critical is the blade depth and force in order not to rip the thin layer of foil nor cut through the backing paper.  I have some spare sheets of black chrome ordered by mistake some years ago....here's the machine in "action":

 

 

using these settings (for those who may be interested):

 

 

and the result:

 

 

All of which bodes well for the actual foil.  I have applied some of it to an old Revell Hurricane, useful lessons a) with removing the foil carefully to avoid tears (and tears) at Dzus locations and b) with what size punch (No. 13) to re-instate those very fasteners.  I plan to use a chrome pen after foiling to cover them.  So that's all quite positive I hope.  Talking of which, a fellow Hurricane fan on Britmodeller (Tomas from Stockholm) contacted me offering me a spare copy of a Hurricane book, which I gladly accepted:

 

 

He posted it on TUESDAY in Stockholm and unbelievably it arrived today (Thursday)....that's better than UK First Class mail!  A few excellent and not previously seen pics in there of K5083:

 

 

What colour is that fuel tank going to be....previous questions!

 

 

Useful detail of the radiator, rarely seen this clearly, and....the original engine:

 

 

All grist to my mill.  Tomorrow, hopefully, more modelling time than today. 

Edited April 4, 2024 by mozart

[Alain Gadbois]

Fuselage Vickers gun! Even more like it’s biplane predecessors!

The notion that you could now cram more than enough firepower in these thick wings wasn’t yet completely understood maybe?

 

Alain

 

[mozart]

5 minutes ago, Alain Gadbois said:

Fuselage Vickers gun! Even more like it’s biplane predecessors!

The notion that you could now cram more than enough firepower in these thick wings wasn’t yet completely understood maybe?

 

Alain

 

At this point in the development Hawker were going with known quantities, ie two fuselage mounted Vickers machine guns accompanied speculatively with two Brownings in the wings. Later, Specification F.5/34 called for an interceptor fighter featuring a battery of six or eight forward firing guns but the feasibility of such a heavy armament had not been seriously considered! 

[Alain Gadbois]

Fascinating history.

A few days ago I found this video on the history of the Hawker Aircraft company.

Might interest you!
 

 

https://youtu.be/l5j6yhHKlZo?si=QX15ZZIrhU_o06to

 

Alain

[DugyB]

10 hours ago, mozart said:

Added to which, I'm rubbish at scribing!  A bit like decals, anything which gets me out of having to do it is worth a punt. 

 

Thanks Mike....coming up shortly an exploration into resin casting!  Brian Fawcett hasn't been well recently and I'm not sure about the availability of the "dog kennel" (his wife won't let him go near the workshop!), so I'm going to see how I get on casting a copy of my one and only existing dog kennel....strictly not ethical I know but "needs must!"

 

Yep, too much time spent today with the chainsaw out in the garden....all work and no play!  But as you'll see below Guy I've not been too idle:

 

So, first off.....experiments with foil cutting using the Silhouette machine.  Critical is the blade depth and force in order not to rip the thin layer of foil nor cut through the backing paper.  I have some spare sheets of black chrome ordered by mistake some years ago....here's the machine in "action":

 

 

using these settings (for those who may be interested):

 

 

and the result:

 

 

All of which bodes well for the actual foil.  I have applied some of it to an old Revell Hurricane, useful lessons a) with removing the foil carefully to avoid tears (and tears) at Dzus locations and b) with what size punch (No. 13) to re-instate those very fasteners.  I plan to use a chrome pen after foiling to cover them.  So that's all quite positive I hope.  Talking of which, a fellow Hurricane fan on Britmodeller (Tomas from Stockholm) contacted me offering me a spare copy of a Hurricane book, which I gladly accepted:

 

 

He posted it on TUESDAY in Stockholm and unbelievably it arrived today (Thursday)....that's better than UK First Class mail!  A few excellent and not previously seen pics in there of K5083:

 

 

What colour is that fuel tank going to be....previous questions!

 

 

Useful detail of the radiator, rarely seen this clearly, and....the original engine:

 

 

All grist to my mill.  Tomorrow, hopefully, more modelling time than today. 

Seeing the pic of the fuel cell I would imagine the reason for the colour would be it was anodised, for maybe cutting down on corrosion. 

[MikeMaben]

10 hours ago, mozart said:

Thanks Mike....coming up shortly an exploration into resin casting!  Brian Fawcett hasn't been well recently and I'm not sure about the availability of the "dog kennel" (his wife won't let him go near the workshop!), so I'm going to see how I get on casting a copy of my one and only existing dog kennel....strictly not ethical I know but "needs must!"

 

I wouldn't considering it unethical unless  you sell them to other people.

Createing a master is the hard part. You've already got that so it shouldn't be difficult for you.

I created my own master, so if I can do it so can you. 

 

Have fun.

[mozart]

Thanks Mike, and yes, resin casting a dog kennel is underway!  
 

I did a little test also yesterday with scribing an engine panel using the Oramask guide, then putting a piece of BMF over it to check the effect….also the “new” fasteners:

 

 

It’s going to be ok I think. This beautiful Fury nose is what I’m trying to achieve:

 

 

 

[Phil88]

Wowwwwwww i like what i see here

[R Palimaka]

Impressive as always Max. I really admire your commitment to get it right, and the creativity of your solutions. This should be another stunner!

 

Richard

[Archimedes]

That is impressive work Max. I like the fact you are going with actual metal for the finish on the nose. Hopefully she should polish up nicely!

 

Kind regards,

Paul

[dennismcc]

That looks very good, nice one.

 

Cheers

 

Dennis

[mozart]

Thanks chaps, very keen to get on with this one but the Typhoon has to have priority….still got 6 months for the Hurricane.