1/32 Handley Page O/400 Moulds

[LSP_Kevin]

28 minutes ago, Rick Griewski said:

 

We'll have to tag @seiran01 to find out!

 

Kev

[Pup7309]

11 hours ago, Kagemusha said:

 

It didn't, he still has his Knighthood, apparently the Queen had never heard of WnW's.

Apparently Charles is partial

[BiggTim]

15 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said:

 

We'll have to tag @seiran01 to find out!

 

Kev

Ernie Ling has it. Clunkmeister on LSM. It's coming along! I told him he needs to finish it and drive it up to Virginia for Nats next year, but it's a fiddly, tender thing and might not transport well.

Edited July 24, 2024 by BiggTim

[esarmstrong]

Of all the WNW large subjects, this one would have been the one I would have loved to build.  Que sera sera...

[Archimedes]

10 minutes ago, esarmstrong said:

Of all the WNW large subjects, this one would have been the one I would have loved to build.  Que sera sera...

I am with you on that.

 

But, when it comes to the 1/32 O/100 and O/400 moulds, of the people who come here, those who say don’t know and those who know can’t say. 

 

Kind regards,

Paul

[dutik]

Ernie is Tha man He is a great modeller, no doubt

 

Looks like the outer wings will be just clicked in onto the inner parts. Great engeneering!

 

Regards

- dutik

 

[wunwinglow]

If the consensus is that no-one could make a penny out of these projects even when picking up the tooling for a song, they were doomed from the start! The Main Man would have had all the same production and distribution costs, AND the research, design and tooling, already spent. 

 

No, I'd have spent the investment money on 4 or 5 smaller kits, and as a punter (depending on the subjects of course) would likely have spent just as much money, for just the same production outlay, but over a year or two, rather than one big, unwieldy project. I haven't bought the Lanc either, for exactly the same reason.

 

But hey, what would I know!?

 

 

[thierry laurent]

The frustrating part is the fact at least 75% of the cost was already covered with zero return. So I'm not convinced it is impossible to be profitable if one only considers the remaining production and distribution costs. An important question is how refined were the existing molds? Did they still ask for considerable cleaning/polishing work?  

[Archimedes]

3 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

The frustrating part is the fact at least 75% of the cost was already covered with zero return. So I'm not convinced it is impossible to be profitable if one only considers the remaining production and distribution costs. An important question is how refined were the existing molds? Did they still ask for considerable cleaning/polishing work?  

Someone has those molds and, given they can produce as good a product as the sole build-up shows, they should be able to turn a profit from them given the sunk costs already borne in the development by WnW. 
 

Or maybe they are the supports for a fancy glass-topped coffee table these days. 
 

kind regards, 

Paul

[monthebiff]

If I remember correctly the 0/100 was very close to fruition as at Telford 2018 before covid hit they had a couple of boxes made up with final artwork and Richard Alexander said they were just waiting to sign off decals and instruction booklet to sign off. 

 

Regards. Andy 

[esarmstrong]

17 minutes ago, monthebiff said:

If I remember correctly the 0/100 was very close to fruition as at Telford 2018 before covid hit they had a couple of boxes made up with final artwork and Richard Alexander said they were just waiting to sign off decals and instruction booklet to sign off. 

 

Regards. Andy 

Yep, I was at the IPMS Nationals in Chattanooga that year and they had a model of the 0/100 and the 0/400 built up.

[Yamamoto]

On 7/29/2024 at 3:01 PM, thierry laurent said:

The frustrating part is the fact at least 75% of the cost was already covered with zero return. So I'm not convinced it is impossible to be profitable if one only considers the remaining production and distribution costs. An important question is how refined were the existing molds? Did they still ask for considerable cleaning/polishing work?  

this model was practically ready, if you don't know, there is already a full instruction manual for building this model on the wingnut website

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3204&cat=4

 

it would be best if Sir PJ and Cooper State Models had talks and he would lend them his mouldform and Cooper State Models would take care of the publicity and development of their own brand. On their Facebook page there was even a heated discussion about the wingnutwings mouldform…

Edited August 1, 2024 by Yamamoto

[Christa]

Wingnut Wings showed their Lancaster B I/III as a work in progress at IPMS Telford 2018 and had declared they would announce their next release during the show. I was in the Hall when that announcement was made, but chanced to be as far from the WnW stand as was possible. Moments after the Handley Page 0/100 & 0/400 announcement was made, a buzz cascaded through the room, 'It's a Bloody Paralyser!' That was a memorable moment.

 

Also, Great War aircraft kits in 1/32 scale were not numerous at the beginning of the naughties. WnW changed the market, not just with the variety of their subjects, but most importantly, by the startling quality of their products. They upped the standard for the industry. I never expected perfection of Wingnut Wings kitsets, but I got good value for my money, shipped free. Is there a kit company anywhere with an online reference archive that approximates to the Wingnut Wings' archive? Note, we still have access to WnW online site more than four years after the company ceased trading. Impressive in life, respected in death.

 

Would I build that Handley Page 0/100? Oh yes.

 

The Vintage Aviator Limited (TVAL) was related, of course. Sir Peter Jackson's companies have made an extraordinary and lasting contribution to our understanding of Great War military aircraft and their crews' experiences. For that, I would award him a second knighthood.

 

Sir Sir Peter Jackson sounds rather jolly, don't you think?

 

Chris

Edited August 2, 2024 by Christa
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[Pup7309]

On 8/2/2024 at 12:48 AM, Yamamoto said:

this model was practically ready, if you don't know, there is already a full instruction manual for building this model on the wingnut website

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3204&cat=4

 

it would be best if Sir PJ and Cooper State Models had talks and he would lend them his mouldform and Cooper State Models would take care of the publicity and development of their own brand. On their Facebook page there was even a heated discussion about the wingnutwings mouldform…

I’d forgotten they had the instructions done. Thanks for the link- pre Covid time warp. How crazy is that. It was canned just before production. 

[Pup7309]

On 8/2/2024 at 7:42 PM, Christa said:

Wingnut Wings showed their Lancaster B I/III as a work in progress at IPMS Telford 2018 and had declared they would announce their next release during the show. I was in the Hall when that announcement was made, but chanced to be as far from the WnW stand as was possible. Moments after the Handley Page 0/100 & 0/400 announcement was made, a buzz cascaded through the room, 'It's a Bloody Paralyser!' That was a memorable moment.

 

Also, Great War aircraft kits in 1/32 scale were not numerous at the beginning of the naughties. WnW changed the market, not just with the variety of their subjects, but most importantly, by the startling quality of their products. They upped the standard for the industry. I never expected perfection of Wingnut Wings kitsets, but I got good value for my money, shipped free. Is there a kit company anywhere with an online reference archive that approximates to the Wingnut Wings' archive? Note, we still have access to WnW online site more than four years after the company ceased trading. Impressive in life, respected in death.

 

Would I build that Handley Page 0/100? Oh yes.

 

The Vintage Aviator Limited (TVAL) was related, of course. Sir Peter Jackson's companies have made an extraordinary and lasting contribution to our understanding of Great War military aircraft and their crews' experiences. For that, I would award him a second knighthood.

 

Sir Sir Peter Jackson sounds rather jolly, don't you think?

 

Chris

Or Sir’s /Sirs’ Peter Jackson- though that seems to imply he has a double.

The website still being up is a great resource- used it the other day. And handy if you lose the instructions or want to zoom in on some detail. 
If only they’d reissued the original Gotha (audacious as it was ) rather than doing all the work on the early /UWD version - Doh!  What a ‘Homer-mobile’ type decision.  Maybe though it was expected that the business would go another 20 years so there was time to bring out more popular stuff. But in the end -for whatever reason, or reasons- there wasn’t.

 

If someone financed and released this would I buy it- depending on the price Hell’s yeah. Would I build it- hopefully. Otherwise it will go in the stash with the other twin engine kits on the build list 😅

Edited August 26, 2024 by Pup7309