Juggernut Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Who wrote the book Mustangs of the Southern Star, and when/where was it published. Google can't find any such reference nor can Amazon. I gotta see cement on the leading edges of P-51's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Juggernut said: Who wrote the book Mustangs of the Southern Star, and when/where was it published. Google can't find any such reference nor can Amazon. I gotta see cement on the leading edges of P-51's. You have to think a bit laterally. Southern Star is unlikely, they call it the Southern Cross: https://www.redroomodels.com/product/southern-cross-mustangs/ https://www.redroomodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/mustangs.jpg Richard MORE: Some resin to support 1/32 Mustangs: https://www.redroomodels.com/product-category/conversions/red-roo-resin-1-32/ Edited June 4, 2020 by RLWP LSP_K2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, RLWP said: You have to think a bit laterally. Southern Star is unlikely, they call it the Southern Cross: https://www.redroomodels.com/product/southern-cross-mustangs/ https://www.redroomodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/mustangs.jpg Richard MORE: Some resin to support 1/32 Mustangs: https://www.redroomodels.com/product-category/conversions/red-roo-resin-1-32/ Sorry, that was my mistake. The correct name of the book is, indeed, "Mustangs of the Southern Cross" by David Muir, a superb book. I posted the mentioned photo in this thread (towards the end): Radu Edited June 4, 2020 by Radub RLWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Having dug through the thread and the Google pictures to find your picture, the Aussies call that 'Stucco' Makes sense Richard BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Strange, I didn't see the photos, all I got was a huge circled dash...no image. Also, that's one expensive book.... I'm curious as to why cement was used on the leading edges of the wings...seems counterproductive. Edited June 4, 2020 by Juggernut BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Williams Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Where are the photos that show this “cement” on the wings? BiggTim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CATCplSlade Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Okay, we've seen the photo and know its true. Now we need the 'why'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTim Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I still think it was done to increase damage resistance. If you read the caption of that photo, it notes that the planes were extremely worn and chipped by the sand and gravel of their Italian airfields kicking up on the planes, and it notes that the "stucco" portion of the wing is not as worn. It seems to imply, but does not directly state, that the stucco was the reason. I also noted that the stucco portion in the photo is the inner portion of the wing, nearest the fuselage. Undoubtedly, that area behind the prop would take the worst beating from sand kicked up during takeoff and landing. No idea if the whole leading edge would have been coated with it, but maybe. Very interesting bit of info. I have never encountered this before. I wonder if it was a common thing. Tim CATCplSlade, LSP_K2 and MikeC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 That makes a lot of sense Tim CATCplSlade and BiggTim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Juggernut said: Strange, I didn't see the photos, all I got was a huge circled dash...no image. Also, that's one expensive book.... I'm curious as to why cement was used on the leading edges of the wings...seems counterproductive. I thought you saw the photo. I posted it in your thread about the much-valued "purity" of Mustang wings. In as far as "books on Mustangs" go, in my opinion "Mustangs of the Southern Cross" is the best book. It is worth every single cent. Rady Edited June 5, 2020 by Radub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Radub said: I thought you saw the photo. I posted it in your thread about the much-valued "purity" of Mustang wings. In as far as "books on Mustangs" go, in my opinion "Mustangs of the Southern Cross" is the best book. It is worth every single cent. Rady It's quite hard to find the photo, your linked images don't appear so you have to go to your Google album to find it. I failed to manage to link to it too Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, RLWP said: It's quite hard to find the photo, your linked images don't appear so you have to go to your Google album to find it. I failed to manage to link to it too Richard I know, I had a lot of trouble linking photos from Google Photos to this forum many times before. It is a weird glitch. As you can see, I tried many times to post that photo in that thread and eventually it worked (even though I changed nothing ). I can share the frustration of anyone who tries to navigate that thread - it was hijacked by trolls, haters and baiters who just relished in stirring sentiments while contributing nothing related to the subject matter. If you just click on the link titled "Radub replied to a topic" in my post above it will take you straight to the photo. Just in case, here it is again (let us hope it works): The text does not mention the purpose but it states that the coating was applied to the leading edges of the wings and tail planes. The text also mentions that it is possible it is a "bitumen"-based paste. HTH Radu Edited June 5, 2020 by Radub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I used to mix cement by hand on an aluminium sign. If left to dry, the thin left-over cement could easily be knocked off - bitumen based makes a lot of sense! Richard Chek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepp Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/4/2020 at 8:09 AM, Radub said: Australians put a coating of rough "cement" on the leading edges of the Mustang wings. Looks a bit like zimmeritt, but I suspect it may have aerodynamic purposes rather than an anti-mine coating. There are other photos like that in the book "Mustangs of the Southern Star". I have I posted a photo of that in another thread on this forum. Radu How very odd! The very last thing you want on a wing from an aerodynamic point of view is a rough leading edge. It increases stall speed, sharpens the stall when it happens and fuel consumption goes up due to the increased drag. If the wings have even slightly different leading edge profiles you'll get a mahoosive wing drop too, which is a Bad Thing. We spend a fortune keeping the leading edges of our jets clean and polished for exactly these reasons. That and they look pretty, shining in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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