Pastor John
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Just a dirty cotton bud Mark - sorry to disappoint. Well we are never happy are we! I convinced myself that the only RLM 83 (old name) out of the bottle I had was too light - indeed the Polyscale bottle said 82 'Dark Green' and their 83 was the lighter green instead of the other way around - anyway I had no other 'Old name 83' dark green and there was a big difference between the 83 chip in the Ullmann book and that on the card provided with the Merrick volumes and so believing that what I could see in most photos was darker than what I had done and seeing that the 83 chip in the Ullmann book was darker than the Merrick cards I opted to mix Xtracolour 73 with 10% Xtracolour 71. The photos came out terrible as I was losing the light at the time but most of the model is now more a 'bronze Green' than an Olive Green and fits the Ullman chip and I think the photos better than what I had.......I think haha? O what have I done??????? Please do not think that I am going for a two-tone green machine - it is just the way the light is hitting the middle of the right wing but that being said I have not put too much paint on
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Sorry Mark what sanding stick?
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Thanks Nick!
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Yes Alan, the model was washed, the black is the primer which went on very well, its just some paints stuck well to it, some did not sadly
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finally able to upload again after a few days of internet problems
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My build.....mmmmmmm I hate masking - I chose a subject with minimal masking and all I have had are problems! The Alclad aluminium would not stick to the Mr Hobby 1500 black spray. I only used Maskol fluid on it and it was enough to pull it off! As for the RD band I had already made it once but made it too wide. On that occasion the low tac Tamiya flexable 1mm tape pulled off a little of the Mr Paint acrylic white and I patched it up before I realised I had to do the whole thing again anyway! Second time the low tack tape pulled off much more!!!!! Mr Paint RLM 76 excellent smelly stuff in the glass jar no peeling off the black spray, 20 year old Poly Scale (what they called RLM 83) again no problem but I do not think I will be using this black Mr Hobby spray again. As for my Polyscale RLM 83!!!!! it is much too light but was the only RLM 83 I had available. I will make it semi gloss at the end and that might help darken it a little. Not having so much fun - prefer designing! Yes these Erla G-10's are a much under-studied subject. Will show photo soon
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I have no doubt that some of these machines were indeed in RLM 81 Green and 83 green or something like that - almost back to square one of RLM 70/71 in 1939, early 1940!!!!!!!!!!!! It is also clear that some of them were monotone like the self destroyed G-10. Yellow nine in the background is very dark showing no contrast at all like the destroyed one so I am happy to have less work to do haha. My own theory is that the last batch of Erla G-10s were made with simplified camo scheme on top of which the Erla style small fuselage and upper crosses and decal style maintenance stencils were applied only where absolutely necessary it would seem judging by how few of them you can see. I see no evidence of field painting judging from the markings applied and the decision to wrap the colour around the lower cowl and rear fuselage on some of them - an odd thing to do in the field I would say. But!!!!! this is only my thinking and not based on any RLM directive to Erla that I am secretly sitting on and not sharing - I am just happy to make a 109 not in RLM 76/74/75! Also if painted like this in the field / maintenance facility using the best parts why not paint the replacement RLM 76/74/75 engine cowls at the same time or shortly afterwards? Seen on Jg 301's Green 7 and I personally think the JG 301 yellow 5? But I was not there, I do not know what happened - I just like modelling the chaotic paint schemes of 1945 because I was turned away from art college and now have aspirations to rule the world!
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On the model no - need to spray it gloss. As for backing of maintenance markings I think white myself but there is some variety when you look at the tail and a backing looking white on the Jg 51 tail jack looks darker on the Jg 27 machine but in both cases the marking above it looks white. Unmarked machine showing left side - markings very bright from that distance - I would say white again. Going back to the self-destroyed Jg 51 machine at Fels Am Wagram - where my Yellow 9 I am doing is a short distance away - you can see that not all these monotone upper Green machines had the lower fuselage and cowl wrapped around. The lower cowl, fuselage and elevator look to be RLM 76 and darker to the backing of the maintenance marking. Interestingly the reconditioned green G-14 of JG 51 also found at Fels Am Wagram does not have any of these white/pale markings as the machine is reconditioned and they have not been masked off it would seem to me. These are only my observations please, I am not all knowing or a 109 experten - just trying to make a model here! Thanks to everyone who made these photos available originally on the internet!
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Hi Matt yes I noted that on the photo I posted some time ago, looks like white backgrounds to the black stencils - why not just use white paint for the stencil???????? Not sure if the Erla G-10s would have been totally reconditioned with a new paint scheme covering over the RLM 76 where older stencils were - earlier sub types yes but not these. I have to look again at all the other green 109 G-10s to see what i can see - certainly the MW50 stencil on the photo i posted shows no masking off so perhaps like I say they are just white blocks plus black stencilling??? But maybe only the machine I have mentioned and not all of them - I will look into it, thanks again Matt
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Thanks guys, John 1 please email me at aimsmodels1@gmail.com and I try and help thanks
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Hi John 1 this is John 0 calling, radio check over! Happy New Year to you. base colour is what we used to call RLM 83 but is now believed to be RLM 81 Green as opposed to 81 brown or 81 olive. Just poor photography and the very matt finish of the old Polyscale acrylics. Just a note on the central belly area - most people would say I think that on these Erla simplified scheme aircraft that the whole fuselage was painted in the RLM 81 Green. They are most probably correct - that is what I always hear but I not think it really makes any sense. It is un-needed work and paint cost and offers no benefit - even if the wings were sprayed separately from the fuselage there is still no need to try and paint underneath it with this cammo scheme - if I was doing an RLM 76/74/75 machine with natural metal wings I would not hesitate to do the belly RLM 76 also for that paint is already being used for a purpose low down on the airframe but in this case there is just no need for the RLM 81 Green to be continued - it is only my interpretation - as far as I know none of the 5 or so RLM 81 Green Erla machines we know of show the belly and the JG 51 reconditioned G-14 in the same paint scheme seems to have the very lowest point possible on the fuselage bottom - in what looks like bare metal - again pointing to no need to paint where the upper RLM 81 green no longer serves its original purpose for ground concealment and simplicity Like I say only my interpretation and what I only wanted model to look like haha
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All the main painting done, a few things to fix before glossing for decals
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Dragon/ AIMS 1/32 Messerschmitt BF110 G-4 2Z+GB Stab 1./NJG6..........Finished!!
Pastor John replied to monthebiff's topic in Works in Progress
Andy there are perhaps more pics of this air frame than any other 110 G-4 that is why I was able to give so much information about it in the profile caption - including the dipole colours. -
Dragon/ AIMS 1/32 Messerschmitt BF110 G-4 2Z+GB Stab 1./NJG6..........Finished!!
Pastor John replied to monthebiff's topic in Works in Progress
I am so happy for you Andy - a wonderful result and truly great build and finish
