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    16 hours ago, LSP_K2 said:

     

    Nice! I've been checking from time to time, but the price is just too high. Perhaps Andy will eventually do one for a reasonable price.

     

    I got lucky as it came up on sale at Squadron or Sprue Brothers some weeks back, forget which.

    Border models is at it again...

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    He was the first to offer 120mm or 1/15th vehicles. I think some of the European companies, like Andrea, offered figures in that scale before him. 

    120mm scale means the height of a typical figure in scale. If you use 5'-11", it is almost exactly 1/15th scale. I do not remember what height they were supposed to be representing, but 5'-11" might actually be a little tall for most historical periods, even WWII, but it works. In 1/16, 5'-11" would be just under 113mm.

    Border models is at it again...

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    9 hours ago, LSP_Mike said:

    Verlinden created 120mm scale, which has now standardised at 1/16.

      With enough funding Border may be trying to do the same; Tamiya jumped into 1/48 armor to take advantage of that market.

    I believe 120mm scale was, and still is I think, a figure scale. The Verlinden large armor stuff was actually 1/15th scale and NOT interchangeable with 1/16th as it is noticeably larger. I found that out the hard way. I still have some of their kits, though, as they had stuff no one else makes in 1/16th.

    HK B-17F Prices

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    1 hour ago, Archimedes said:

    Sorry, what is the difference in the box contents between HK B-17F M01E05 ($296.00) and B-17F 01E029 ($417.00). Sorry I wasn’t clear before .  
     

    kind regards, 

    Paul

    Yup, knew that, but couldn't resist. You know what they say, 'Every one's a comedian.'

    Border models is at it again...

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    9 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

    Hi,

     

    Actually the history about Tamiya and the 1/35 scale is a little bit more complex. The Panther A tank most people are refering to is NOT the initial 1/35 Tamiya Panther tank. The original was actually made in 1961 whereas the well-known Panther A model was only made in 1968. Both were very different.

    You can see them on scalemates: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-1-german-tank-panther--347436 and https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-mt223-panzerkampfwagen-v-panther--347433

    If you think the 1968 one vaguely looked like a Panther, I can tell you the 1961 kit was FAR worse! Simply look at that after a deep breath! Note the "Tiger II" decal probably explains they did not really know what was an actual Panther tank... Not really surprising because the Tamiya models of the sixties were only made from... some pictures! They only started measuring full scale vehicles from the seventies.WJBlGNZ.jpeg

     

    Moreover, Tamiya 1/35 standardization only arrived at the end of the sixties decade. It even looks they did not create the first 1/35 model but this is not surprising because at that time there were models in close to every scale! During the sixties they also released AFVs in other weird scales such as 1/21, 1/50 or 1/55! It is true they were the first to decide to standardize progressively AFVs models in 1/35 and for whatever reason this was based on approximate measurements of that inital Panther dog. Useless to say that the initial so-called 1/35 Panther tank kit had not the same hull dimensions than the 1968 one that was still inaccurate! The first relatively correct 1/35 Panther tank with regard to hull and turret main dimensions was released by Nichimo in 1974 and... it was also motorized! So the batteries size were not the only reason for the dimension inaccuracies of such sixties models. There were other examples of successive generations of Tamiya 1/35 models of the same AFV that had clearly different dimensions. I think this was just a product of the time as models were intended for children and accuracy was not really a major criterion... This hopefully evolved but that scale stayed. Too bad as this is why we are now struggling between two scales!

     

     

    Thierry is correct! The first Panther had nothing to do with what you can find anywhere now. They had a completely different logo, too. And BTW, if by some stroke of luck you find one of the above Panther kits, Tamiya is looking for a copy for its company museum as no one thought to keep a copy! They would pay big bucks for one assuming they haven't found one yet.

    Border models is at it again...

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    52 minutes ago, BiggTim said:

     

    HAHA!! I am just having fun with this, but since you asked....1:35 is more of a bastard scale than any other scale except, perhaps, HO (1:87) because it does not correlate to virtually any other scale. For instance, most popular model scales have equivalents in architectural scale: 

    1:12 equates to 1" = 1 foot

    1:16 equates to 3/4" = 1 foot

    1:24 equates to 1/2" = 1 foot

    1:48 equates to 1/4" = 1 foot

    1:32 equates to 3/8" = 1 foot

     

    If you don't like imperial, then 1:35 doesn't even equate to any engineering or metric scale that I am aware of, so where did it come from? :angry2: :coolio:

     

     

    Tim

     

     

    I have mentioned this before, but I think it is purely an error. Reading Tamiya's book on their history, they claim 1/35th came from the dimension required for the batteries to fit, width-wise, in the lower hull of their first armor kit, the Panther. And as Tamiya always stuck with one scale for their different models in a series (their earliest models were of ships and they were praised for keeping them in one scale, not 'box scale'), they stuck with 1/35th. But I do not believe it. For one, there was already early tank models out there in 1/32nd by Airfix and Monogram and if they were that worried about keeping things in a same scale, you would think they would have picked 1/32. Also, if you were that worried about fitting in batteries and motors, why would you base the scale on one of the largest tanks you will model? To make the point, their first Panzer IV kit was also motorized and the lower hull is too wide to get the batteries to fit! If they had gone 1/32nd, I believe it would fit. So, 1/35 was a mistake all around.

     

    Having said that, I bought one of the first, if not the first, 1/35 aircraft: the Pend Oreille Bf 109G-6 kit as I wanted to be able to do a dio with 1/35th figures and vehicles.

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