Pete Fleischmann Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, LSP_Ron said: How does he fund all this Pete? owning, storing, fuel, insurance, support equipment, maintenance, annual's etc would cost a kings ransom just for one let alone 12 Dan is a talented entrepreneur to put it mildly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 LOL Must be. Good for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff T Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Jeezzz, thats just unbelievable Pete!!!… one Flogger would be awesome, but twelve, Incredible! Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 12:55 PM, Pete Fleischmann said: As a privately owned jet, it’s pretty cool. Always draws a crowd! AB takeoffs and drag chute on landing. Very cool. Very high fuel burn and a lot of support equipment required. Dan got some training from a few former USAF Red Eagles, who probably flew the Flogger better than any Soviet pilot. As a fighter however, it is severely hampered by a horrible turn rate/radius, terrible visibility, and an equally bad radar. If I had to fight this guy he’d likely die pre-merge; but if he was stupid enough to turn with me I’d take him one-circle for sure. Having said all of that, you have to have some respect for the missiles he carries. The AA-8 is an especially nasty round. cheers P Supposedly the later model Floggers, like the MLD had significantly improved maneuverability. The Israeli's tested a Syrian ML and were supposed to have been surprised by it. Said it could out-accelerate an F-16 (although I'd assume it was an early C or an A model). Interesting comment on the AA-8, never heard much praise of it. Most of the talk on Soviet AAM's was focused on the later Archer. I read somewhere that Soviet pilots nicknamed it the "humane missile" because it's small warhead would leave the other driver unscathed. Think you'll be able to get a Flogger ride from your buddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, John1 said: Supposedly the later model Floggers, like the MLD had significantly improved maneuverability. The Israeli's tested a Syrian ML and were supposed to have been surprised by it. Said it could out-accelerate an F-16 (although I'd assume it was an early C or an A model). Interesting comment on the AA-8, never heard much praise of it. Most of the talk on Soviet AAM's was focused on the later Archer. I read somewhere that Soviet pilots nicknamed it the "humane missile" because it's small warhead would leave the other driver unscathed. Think you'll be able to get a Flogger ride from your buddy? The Flogger is certainly fast. Even in the overweight and underpowered (by F-16 standards) block 42, the only western jet that could out-accelerate me was the F-111 down low. Both the long burn and short burn Archers, either the IR or SAR flavors, are great missiles. You fight these on the rail, initially, by fighting the Floggers radar, which has severe limitations. Once the SAR Archer is off the rail, you are fighting the missile and the radar, as well as maintaining a position advantage on the Flogger. You should already have shot(s) in the air however. If he doesn’t blow up pre-merge and this thing collapses to a visual fight, time to be thinking about that Aphid shot. The AA-8 is a “dogfight” missile, with an impressive min range and short time of flight. Certainly employable within the gun WEZ. What other driver were the Soviets talking about? Perhaps they watched Top Gun too many times. The F-15 and F-16 should have kept them up at night Ahhh…the sport of kings! and yes- I’m sure I could fly with Dan…if I paid the fuel bill! cheers P Edited August 13, 2021 by Pete Fleischmann Out2gtcha, John1 and Dragon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael931080 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 11:21 AM, Pete Fleischmann said: Hey all- this is my good buddy, fellow A320 captain at my airline, L-39 owner and MiG-23 owner Dan Filer. Dan is one of the most awesome humans I know. Former A-6 driver and combat vet. This is one of 12 MiG-23’s he owns..you read that right. 12. Flogger flight cheers P That is so cool Pete! Thanks for sharing that! Pete Fleischmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaninaustria Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Hey Pete, since we’re on the missile/dog-fight topic - quick question: we had a guy at our airline that was a trained Mig-23 pilot from the DDR. I remember him telling me that one of his missiles was able to identify heat signatures from NATO aircraft and when launched the warhead would actually target the cockpit rather then the heat signature of the engines. Any truth to that theory? If so, which Warsaw Pact missile system was he referring to? Just curious, Cheers Alan Ps. There is a great autobiography out by a former MIG test pilot. He tested the Mig-23 and I remember reading his adventure of swinging the wings forward and testing the G-limits on the wing box. For the life of me I can’t remember the name of the book. But I do remember that on an official US visit he was given a backseat ride in an F-16 and commented that it was his favorite fighter. I found that anecdote interesting! Post edit: The name of the Test Pilot is Stepan Anastasovich Mikoyan. Edited August 14, 2021 by alaninaustria Pete Fleischmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 9:24 AM, Pete Fleischmann said: What other driver were the Soviets talking about? Perhaps they watched Top Gun too many times. The F-15 and F-16 should have kept them up at night Ahhh…the sport of kings! cheers P I think they were just making general comments based on the very small size of the Aphid's warhead. Not sure if that missile ever saw any actual combat, maybe with Syria? Still have a thing for the MiG-23 (Krokodil), to me it's the Soviet Phantom. I'd love to build it in 32nd but that Trumpy kit scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) On 8/14/2021 at 10:09 AM, alaninaustria said: Hey Pete, since we’re on the missile/dog-fight topic - quick question: we had a guy at our airline that was a trained Mig-23 pilot from the DDR. I remember him telling me that one of his missiles was able to identify heat signatures from NATO aircraft and when launched the warhead would actually target the cockpit rather then the heat signature of the engines. Any truth to that theory? If so, which Warsaw Pact missile system was he referring to? Just curious, Cheers Alan Hi Alan, Never heard that specifically, but perhaps he was referring to a “rate bias” that many IR missiles have. It is a flare-rejection system that biases the missile flight path ahead of the heat source to increase the Pk of the round. cheers Pete Edited August 15, 2021 by Pete Fleischmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDoo Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 6:00 PM, Pete Fleischmann said: the runway is a very predictable surface. The dirt- not so much. When I served in the RCAF in my Twin Otter days we had a hard landing on the ice, we bent and buckled the ski’s, and the rigging was torn. This was in the Arctic in the middle of no where. We knew we could take-off, but we could not retract the skis to make a wheels landing at the base (CFS Alert). We landing on the gravel runway with our bent and buckled skis. That was quite the adventure. Although we didn’t have sparks or fire like you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, ScoobyDoo said: When I served in the RCAF in my Twin Otter days we had a hard landing on the ice, we bent and buckled the ski’s, and the rigging was torn. This was in the Arctic in the middle of no where. We knew we could take-off, but we could not retract the skis to make a wheels landing at the base (CFS Alert). We landing on the gravel runway with our bent and buckled skis. That was quite the adventure. Although we didn’t have sparks or fire like you did. Holy smoke..I bet that was exciting! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Blasting off from KHPN- Michael931080, Lenny320, Anthony in NZ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Fleischmann Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) Kristi working the crown in Latrobe PA gotta watch the airshow crowd like a hawk. Love them all, but They will climb up on the wing, drop the steps, open panels, hang off the pitot booms, stick their fingers in random holes, lean on your paint job, and throw beer cups down the intake if you aren’t careful! cheers Pete Edited August 25, 2021 by Pete Fleischmann JeepsGunsTanks, Anthony in NZ and Michael931080 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ron Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael931080 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Pete Fleischmann said: Kristi working the crown in Latrobe PA gotta watch the airshow crowd like a hawk. Love them all, but They will climb up on the wing, drop the steps, open panels, hang off the pitot booms, stick their fingers in random holes, lean on your paint job, and throw beer cups down the intake if you aren’t careful! cheers Pete Air Show Crowds - sometimes "we" are the worst! P.S. I respect air crews and aircraft, after working with them years ago. Pete Fleischmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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