themongoose Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I would think the panel line first as it's about shadowing. Weathering would happen over time and some elements would get into the panel lines. RichieB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Thanks for the advice, sounds like a plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Don't forget the raised longitudinal seam on the center line tank like the ones on the wing tanks! Edited January 24, 2018 by Bruce RichieB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Thanks for the steer Bruce, I'll have to look into it as the Revell tank is obviously devoid of that detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) the squadron walkaround #45 has some pictures you can make out the seam I'm referring to. also, there are 4 sway braces for the center line pylon that drop down from either side of the drop tank pylon, their location is outlined on the bottom of the kit. There are two braces that drop down to stabilize the fins on the tank, the location of these are also outlined on the kit. Bruce Edited February 5, 2018 by Bruce Shawn M and F`s are my favs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Many thanks Bruce, just what I was looking for! Some scratch building required here methinks. Are they rivets or bolts along the tank seamline? Also, I presume the seam runs only on the left hand side of the tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I believe the way the tank was made the center section was one piece of sheet metal that was rolled then the ends were bolted together and the cone ends were riveted on much like the wing tanks. I'll see if I can find any close ups of the seam. Bruce RichieB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Back to the question of why stenciling was reduced on aircraft, as a retired Air Force pilot, it was my understanding that it was driven by costs. When an a/c went in for R&R and repaint, the time required to cut stencils and repaint them slowed the turnaround times and increased costs so only major items were repainted, i.e. grounding points, jack points, etc. Victor K2 and RichieB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Taking on Bruce's information I added a seam line and some pseudo bolts to the large fuel tank using plastic strip. Having got this far I thought I'd practise some weathering techniques on the fuel tanks before I hit the main event. Firstly the large centreline tank. As this tank sits under the fuselage it probably collects its fair share of muck, well that's my working assumption anyway! I used a Mig Ammo panel line wash then added some random colour patches with oil dots blended in. I then added some fuel and dirt streaks and finally some pigments to show the more obvious dirt. In addition, I've scratch built the braces that come down and sit on the front of the tank though you probably won't see much of them when they're fixed in place! Happy so far, so on to the underwing tanks next for more of the same. AceofClubs, jgrease, ghatherly and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevepd Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Looks great so far, previously I've used spectacle arm screws for the sway bars they work really well. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn M Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 braces are stunning, guitar string? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Those braces are very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Thanks chaps, they are indeed made from guitar string with a disc of plastic attached to the end and slightly chamfered. A bit of dark wash helps take of the brightness. Shawn M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 looks great. I got actual screws from a railroad supplier for my braces.What ever works. You are right, with the doors 81 L&R open, its hard to see any of that detail. Bruce RichieB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Having started I might as well finish with this area, so on to the under-wing tanks. These often seem to have staining around the pylons, joins and seams with varying degrees of dirtiness - so there's lots of scope! Weathering was done in stages with panel line wash, some oil dotting (mainly browns), streaking then the odd patch of pigment to simulate dirt. I also used pigments to try and dull some of the rather bright stencils. Mostly there with these now. I might add some different pigment shades if I'm feeling brave however less is generally more so I might see how the rest of the weathering goes. I like the idea of tackling small items in stages as it allows you to concentrate on one thing rather than trying to resolve weathering the whole aircraft in one go. It also give you a bit of practise before the main event! jgrease, johncrow, AceofClubs and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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