Anthony in NZ Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Iain said: I spy 4 sets ready to go - looks like Ladislav has done us proud: Should have mine mid-week - digging out the rest of the model now - these engines are going to make a huge difference! Iain Had to be done didn’t it guys…lol I wonder what else he can make us. He has the props in the works but I think they might be different on the HS780 as well? Toshihiko has printed me a bunch of stuff for the 780 and P-3 in resin so it will be interesting to see what they look like cheers Anthony Derek B and ctayfor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Anthony in NZ said: Toshihiko has printed me a bunch of stuff for the 780 and P-3 in resin so it will be interesting to see what they look like I'll be interested too. I'm still grumpy about the unusable props and landing gear provided with my 1/72 Electra kit, and resentful at the idea of having to pay again to obtain usable parts. But if those parts are decent, then perhaps I'll relent. (I bought some Quickboost props, but the blades are not the correct type.) Kev Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Kev, what about robbing a Hasegawa Kit to get the landing gear for your 72nd scale Electra? They appear cheap(ish) from time to time... LSP_Kevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 8:56 PM, Anthony in NZ said: Toshihiko has printed me a bunch of stuff for the 780 and P-3 in resin so it will be interesting to see what they look like cheers Anthony Hi Anthony, What did you get for the Orion? I'm curious. Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, thierry laurent said: Hi Anthony, What did you get for the Orion? I'm curious. Wheels, u/c and doors, bomb doors….think that’s it. I already had the props thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Starfighter said: Kev, what about robbing a Hasegawa Kit to get the landing gear for your 72nd scale Electra? They appear cheap(ish) from time to time... I do actually have one of those in the stash, which I'm planning to convert to an Electra as a companion project. I guess I could always do one of them as an in-flight model, but it's not my preference. Kev Starfighter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I can totally understand your disappoint that it's required to spend additional money to get usable parts for a kit you have already paid for... on the other hand, I am sure either an Orion or Electra yould look great in in-flight mode. Now: BTT! Anthony in NZ and LSP_Kevin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 My set has arrived! Looks like a great improvement - and should fit OK - subject to some modification to the new cowlings to fit the wing profile on the One Man Model wings. The One Man Model sections will need removing from the wings completely. However - as per my earlier comment - technically these represent the HS.748 cowlings and NOT the HS.780 Andover units - the biggest difference being the area around the engine efflux pipe at the rear of the nacelles. On the 748 the efflux pipes are shorter, terminating before the rear of the wing - on the 780 they go to the trailing edge of the wing. I also suspect the pipe diameter is greater, but need to confirm that. The 780 had more powerful Dart engines - which is why they had larger props - and the engine nacelles moved further out on the wings, so the props cleared the fuselage, compared to the 748. Does anyone know if the intakes were a larger diameter? I suspect the may be looking at photos just now? If so - that could be a real pain... The lower nacelle area ahead of the main undercarriage bay - with the drop-down front section - is also the wrong shape for the HS.780 Andover - it extends further forward under the cowling panels - and has a different side profile as a result. There are probably other differences too (have already spotted a missing NACA intake) - but nothing that can't be addressed with some modelling work! Panel lines will want filling and re-scribing IMHO - as they are a little trench-like having been scaled up from something intended to be far smaller. But please don't read the above comments as negatives - they are current observations on work that will need to be done and, to be fair, shouldn't be beyond the capabilities of anyone that's contemplated the One Man Model kits to address. Ladislav very kindly agreed to blow up the engine/cowling/nacelle up from his 1:144 HS.748 parts - and that is what we have. The set provides a huge step forward over the original parts/shapes. The exposed engine is exquisite! Will post some photos - with findings - in next few days... Feeling inspired on this one again. Iain LSP_Kevin, Anthony in NZ and Starfighter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Here's what comes in the box - individually bubble-wrapped: And I'll let the photos do the talking. I suspect the parts aren't fully cured as they are a little sticky in places - and this may well be to ease removal from the supports. I'll pop mine in my UV curing station - but some time in natural sunlight should help. Some of the tubing/cables look to have failed on the print - but nothing that isn't really easy to replace: Back in a mo... Iain patricksparks, LSP_Kevin, ctayfor and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Some really quick and dirty images alongside the kit parts - which will help explain my initial comments above. The general shapes around the exhaust, and the area of front of the lower nacelle, are better on the One Man Model parts. Need to study references now to decide on a plan of attack. Have fun! Iain patricksparks, Anthony in NZ, Stevepd and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockie Yarwood Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 The new parts look really nice. What an amazing difference. Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scvrobeson Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Wow, those new bits look fantastic. Almost no evidence of print lines or anything on them. Can't wait to see them joined onto the wings. Matt Anthony in NZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Great pics and analysis Iain, thanks so much! They look really nicely made but definitely need modding for our 780’s. But a great base. I suspect if you had a 748 then you’d be sweet Thanks again, mine are on their way cheers Anthony ctayfor and Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 I think the mods will be relatively straightforward. Current thinking on the rear of the nacelles - and the area at lower front - is to use the One Man Model shapes as a basis to make patterns to vacuum form new sections to add to the LACI parts. Might have a play over the weekend if I get time... Yes - plug and play (perhaps with some panel line work) if you have the 748 in 1:32... Iain Anthony in NZ and ctayfor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 Some interesting chats yesterday and it looks like we may have some new parts to look at in the near future - watch this space! Meanwhile - need to do a test fit of the LACI parts on the One Man Model wing. So, 'Operation Dart' begins... This isn't simple - as the One Man Model parts have the nacelles/cowlings printed contiguously with the inner wing sections - front and rear each side. So, out with the razor saw - and some careful cutting: Which gives us this - surfaces where cuts have been made need dressing off - that will come after some important stabilising work - more on that shortly. Leaving four components to make up the Port inner wing section. Now, I mentioned 'stabilisation' earlier... Disappointingly on my inner wing prints there is no internal 'fill', or structure, from the print process. Even before modification, you could squeeze the upper and lower surfaces of the inner wing section together - and they would 'give'. Even looking at the parts when they first arrived, you could see the upper and lower surfaces 'bowing' out'. Cutting up these parts confirmed the interior is completely hollow - disappointing as a fill is easy to add at the print slicing stage and would have helped a lot with strength - but we have a 'plan' that I'll come back to... Iain Paul in Napier, LSP_Kevin, themongoose and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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