Lothar Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm certain that base will look stellar!!! Lothar airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCanopy Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hi everyone Though admiring the craftsmanship on this site for some time now, I just recently joined as a member. > Does Peter's build need more praise from a complete newbie, after all of the assembled luminaries and experts on this forum have already offered their overwhelming judgement? I don't think so. Instead – to express my *very* close attention – I will resort to an observation and a question, related to this picture: As the different hues of grey seem to clearly differentiate the red and blue colors on the original plane, it would appear (to me) that the baseplate of the spinner should be painted red instead of blue. Could this be true? I'm pretty sure Peter has other pictures of his subject, but i couldn't find them in this gigantic thread ;-) Sincerely, Joerg Uilleann, airscale and Zank_Frappa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Joerg; Welcome to the forum! Good observation on the photo. It does indeed look as if the spinner back plate is painted red. It's an exact match for the cheat line. I'm sure others will add their thoughts. Best regards; Steve airscale and BlackCanopy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 FWIW, I agree, good observation.....I would say yes it is red as well, geez, and I have FOUR eyes too and missed that ! airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airscale Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hi everyone Though admiring the craftsmanship on this site for some time now, I just recently joined as a member. > Does Peter's build need more praise from a complete newbie, after all of the assembled luminaries and experts on this forum have already offered their overwhelming judgement? I don't think so. Instead – to express my *very* close attention – I will resort to an observation and a question, related to this picture: As the different hues of grey seem to clearly differentiate the red and blue colors on the original plane, it would appear (to me) that the baseplate of the spinner should be painted red instead of blue. Could this be true? I'm pretty sure Peter has other pictures of his subject, but i couldn't find them in this gigantic thread ;-) Sincerely, Joerg Hi Joerg & welcome to LSP Thats a great observation and when I was painting the Spinner I was all set to paint the baseplate red.. fortunately, before I did, I checked the two colour pics I have of Race #80... ..now to me, I thought the whole spinner & backplate looked blue - I checked again and I think what we can see is how the black & white photochromatic film has dealt with two different paint types or maybe shades of blue, make it look like it matches the red? I might do something with it to make the shade / finish different, but I ask your opinion - it all looks blue right? TIA Peter Jeff, HerculesPA_2 and Uilleann 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCanopy Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hello Peter Thanks for your response. Indeed, the backplate does look blue. ;-) Notice, how the black&white film has inverted the "lightness" of the two colors, with the red appearing much darker than the blue, when it seems to be the opposite in color pictures (and anybody's guessing, how these colors might have looked under natural light to the naked eye). To guess colors from B&W pictures seems to be completely futile... airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well, it had me fooled! I'll get back to my knitting........ airscale and Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCanopy Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 ... As to why the backplate seems to be much darker than the rest of the spinner (but only in B&W): Any ideas from technical experts what could've been the cause for this false impression? Some oily grime stuff? airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 HA, ! There you go................. maybe my Four Eyes 'were working' after all................... well at least now I won't have to phone my optometrist tomorrow and demand a refund !!! :rofl: airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If the smoked mirror doesn't work out, how about polishing up a sheet of litho? Richard airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm wondering if the base plate might actually have been black, rather than blue. It does look noticeably darker than the spinner itself, to the point of barely being able to see any blue in it at all. Kev Starfighter, Zank_Frappa, BlackCanopy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zank_Frappa Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 >brings this to a show >only gets 2nd place because of baseplate color debate Seriously though amazing job on this, I've enjoyed following it from the start. airscale and BlackCanopy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Hoffmann Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hello Peter Thanks for your response. Indeed, the backplate does look blue. ;-) Notice, how the black&white film has inverted the "lightness" of the two colors, with the red appearing much darker than the blue, when it seems to be the opposite in color pictures (and anybody's guessing, how these colors might have looked under natural light to the naked eye). To guess colors from B&W pictures seems to be completely futile... Black & White film is more sensitive to blue than to other colors (despite the fact that it is called "panchromatic"), Therefor blue is represented as light grey. To correct this B&W photographers used yellow or orange filters on the lens, especially to darken blue sky in landscape photographs. So indeed you can't guess colors from a B&W pic. Depending on the filter that's been used, the shades of grey can be wildly different. Cheers Rainer airscale and BlackCanopy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'd go with black as well. The baseplate seems to appear darker than the rest of the spinner. airscale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCanopy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Black & White film is more sensitive to blue than to other colors (despite the fact that it is called "panchromatic"), Therefor blue is represented as light grey. To correct this B&W photographers used yellow or orange filters on the lens, especially to darken blue sky in landscape photographs. So indeed you can't guess colors from a B&W pic. Depending on the filter that's been used, the shades of grey can be wildly different. Cheers Rainer Thanks Rainer. I even used to know about the orange filters, back in the dirty old "chemical" days of photography. Kev's supposition of the baseplate being black sounds possible (and would explain the very distinctive demarcation in the B&W photo, as well as the somewhat blurred, darker "rim" in the color pictures). For the sake of aesthetics, I would still prefer the thing to remain blue, though ;-) Nuff' said about this darn backplate! Ultimately, it's Pete's decision, whatever he does shall be the "truth" ... Out2gtcha, airscale and Rainer Hoffmann 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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