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17 hours ago, Christa said:

If that text is German, OBG AND Germans know from funny!

It's Dutch (used in Belgium,Flanders and The Netherlands)

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The problem is simple. European institutions have asked for the enforcement of national policies regarding water cleaning. However, as such facilities are very expensive they are tailored for the normal amount of water coming in the cycle. Unfortunately each time you have exceptional circumstances they are overloaded and in cities the surplus of water arriving in the sewers goes directly to the rivers. This explains that. Alas, with the climate going mad, such exceptional circumstances are less rare than they were intended to be...

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Or it could be that people are pooping in the rivers of Europe with great regularity and/or that raw sewage is being dumped directly into waterways as a matter of course.  That is how it’s been done for millennia, has it not?  It is well known that they do it in the streets of some cities here in the States without so much as a second thought.  Rivers and streams are at least self-flushing, so why not?

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2 hours ago, Oldbaldguy said:

Or it could be that people are pooping in the rivers of Europe with great regularity and/or that raw sewage is being dumped directly into waterways as a matter of course.  That is how it’s been done for millennia, has it not?  It is well known that they do it in the streets of some cities here in the States without so much as a second thought.  Rivers and streams are at least self-flushing, so why not?

Dumping directly dirty/polluted water in the rivers is not tolerated anymore in Europe.

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5 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

The problem is simple. European institutions have asked for the enforcement of national policies regarding water cleaning. However, as such facilities are very expensive they are tailored for the normal amount of water coming in the cycle. Unfortunately each time you have exceptional circumstances they are overloaded and in cities the surplus of water arriving in the sewers goes directly to the rivers. This explains that. Alas, with the climate going mad, such exceptional circumstances are less rare than they were intended to be...

Agreed Thierry, you have the current situation succinctly accounted for, BUT may I respectfully suggest a complex engineering system (with a significant public health responsibility) that does not cope with accurately predicted and increasingly frequent overload conditions is no longer fit for purpose? Correction, or capacity upgrade will be costly, but surely these faults are not expected to cure themselves unless populations substantially decrease, soon.

 

Do Olympics ordinarily highlight health hazards?

 

Chris

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We need separate storm drains, so rainwater goes straight to the rivers and sea, and effluent only to sewage works.

 

Alas, more and more people, more and more rain, and not much storm drain construction. It's suffocating the fish. People ask me why I never go sailing or swimming in the UK — and it's not just the cold water compared to southern France!

 

Tony 

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On 8/3/2024 at 5:11 AM, thierry laurent said:

The problem is simple. European institutions have asked for the enforcement of national policies regarding water cleaning. However, as such facilities are very expensive they are tailored for the normal amount of water coming in the cycle. Unfortunately each time you have exceptional circumstances they are overloaded and in cities the surplus of water arriving in the sewers goes directly to the rivers. This explains that. Alas, with the climate going mad, such exceptional circumstances are less rare than they were intended to be...

 

Probably France is dealing with a similar problem that still plagues Portland, Oregon. While there are all kinds of clean water acts and policies, when you are dealing with drain systems first built over 100 years ago, all kinds of problems have to be overcome. Paris would be dealing with even older systems. One problem Portland has to deal with, and I bet Paris and other cities in France are the same, is the old "combined drainage" systems. That is old drains that handle both storm drain and sewer.  Because there is sewage in them, they go to the sewage treatment plants. So, in any heavy rain or flood conditions the amount of rainwater causes the sewage plants to be overwhelmed, and they have to dump the excess directly in the river. Combined drains have not been allowed for many decades, but there are still some out there and every once in a while, they still discover a system that doesn't even show up in their records. Like the one our excavator hit while digging footings for a project that filled the whole block-sized job with two feet of sewage!

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