190D9 question

[LSP_Mike]

I'm working on an early D9, with the 5 piece cowling. J Crandall indicates serial block 210... as having the early, 5 piece cowl, ergo...the early flat canopy/ armor/support. Got it.

 In going through my copy of

Green Hearts by Urbanke, I find profiles of serial block 210... with late bulged canopies. Retrofit?  Field mod? I found a few profiles I really liked in Green Hearts, but want to try to get it right.

[Furie]

Hi Mike, I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly, but very often abandoned FW 190 D-9s were photographed without a canopy.  

It's possible that, when in doubt, the designer of the color profile chose to randomly place a bulged canopy.

If you're sure that the D-9s with the 210xxx serial block had a flat canopy, then leave it as it is and ignore the color profile.

This color profile is certainly wrong.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Furie

[LSP_Mike]

Good point. The early D9s had the 5 piece gun cowl; sources indicate within 210xxx werk number range. I was assuming flat canopy, but wonder about the exceptions. Your response certaily makes sense. I had not considered that.

[thierry laurent]

Damaged canopies were replaced with what was available and as far as I know the installation of the bulged one did not ask for any heavy modification. I think the only mechanical difference was the antenna tension mechanism.

[MikeMaben]

Right, the bulged canopies didn't have one. The bulged canopies also had a quite noticeable bulkhead

behind the armor headrest too.

Not sure about this one ...

 

 

... looks like it could be a replacement as Thierry described. ???

 

 

[LSP_Mike]

According to my ref's, that is an early D9, with the 5 piece gun cowl, and early, flat sided canopy.

It would make sense that some may have been replaced in the field for various reasons.

[MikeMaben]

Sure, it's a 210 serial but I thot the very top of the canopy glass looked like it 'might' be more curved than flat. 

[nmayhew]

That looks like a flat one to me

[LSP_Mike]

Mike, from what I've read, the early style has the simplified armor/ support, which this has. I think canopy styles could be switched, plane to plane, but not canopy types from early to late, if that makes sense. 

[phasephantomphixer]

AFIAK Bulged canopies had the shrouded or solid section aft of armor and headrest.

[MikeMaben]

Yep , that's what I said above. I found another pic of the same a/c and it's not a bulged canopy.

[Martinnfb]

@LSP_Mike Hi Mike, could you be more specific, serial number, squadron coding, photograph etc. ?  

[Kagemusha]

From JaPo Fw 190D-9 book volume 1 regarding a 210-series aircraft which landed in Norway at the end of the war.

 

[LSP_Mike]

Thanks Kage, appreciated.

Martin, I'm thinking of a JG 26 machine. The were the first to fly the D9. A Lt. Soffing possibly.

[LSP_Mike]

Could use some help: trying to find info on Lt. waldemar Soffing of 

I/JG 26  late '44- early '45. A profile of his D9 would be fantastic, even a description would help.