WarLycan Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Hello, I recently purchased a "used" 1/32 Fisher F9F-5 Panther. Aside from the lack of assembly instructions and decal sheets, the only work done on the kit was glue the "chin" under the nose to try and turn the -5 to a -6. I apologize if this subject has been covered but I am looking for the best way to remove this "chin" piece and revert this back to a -5. So my question is, is there a safe way to unglue this resin piece from the resin body? Just too expensive a kit to destroy due to my lack of experience with resin. Thanks for any help you can provide. Edited June 7, 2022 by WarLycan spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I've read that popping it into the freezer for a while will allow it to be easily removed, assuming it was attached with superglue. If it was attached using epoxy, I have no idea. WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Hot water, (boiling if you are brave) but be careful not to warp anything. However, all is not lost if you do warp something because hot water will allow you to put it back. I've used MEK to strip paint from resin in the past, and it has often released any superglued joints. However I always assumed that resin was inert to CA glue, but experience has shown that it's not always the case. WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveculp Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 If it was glued on with CA glue then you can use Bob Smith Uncure to uncure it. WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanroy Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Quite a few organic solvents will attack cyanoacrylate. Acetone normally works for softening cured CA, and nitromethane works even better. There are quite a few CA debonders commercially available, some gelified to prevent the debonder from running off and to make it less volatile. Freezing works be breaking the CA polymer bonds, but since synthetic resins are also polymerized, there is in principle some risk that freezing may also make the resin brittle. Edited June 7, 2022 by pvanroy WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarLycan Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 I appreciate the information. Thanks, gents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob MDC Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 When I first encountered super glue the stuff was mega-expensive that was way back, there was a de-bonder which was also very expensive on a couple of occasions we needed to remove the stuff we used "fresh" not tinned pineapple juice not quick but it worked. That was on the early mixes not used that technique for years. Bob WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bellis Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, pvanroy said: Acetone normally works for softening cured CA... Acetone is the active ingredient in CA "Debonders", and also plain old Nail Polish Remover. Nail Polish Removers also have various fillers and scents that dilute it enough to not attack plastic or resin while still easily removing CA. Straight Acetone definitely attacks plastic. While it might not attack some resins, I wouldn't want to find out that it does on an expensive kit. HTH, D WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerobat Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Depending on the glue used - I had a similar problem with the same kit (self inflicted, though). I needed to de-bond 5 minute epoxy and was suggested vinegar. The ancient thread is here: De-bonding 5 minute epoxy WarLycan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanroy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 17 hours ago, D Bellis said: Acetone is the active ingredient in CA "Debonders", and also plain old Nail Polish Remover. Nail Polish Removers also have various fillers and scents that dilute it enough to not attack plastic or resin while still easily removing CA. Straight Acetone definitely attacks plastic. While it might not attack some resins, I wouldn't want to find out that it does on an expensive kit. HTH, D I think most commercial CA debonders nowadays use propylene carbonate, because it is non-toxic and has only limited potential for irritation. Undiluted acetone obviously attacks polystyrene, but in principle it should be safe to use on PUR. That said, I agree it's not really a leap of faith you'd want to take on an expensive and rare kit! So, maybe test on a casting block first to be safe? WarLycan, Bob MDC and D Bellis 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Andrus Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 A pure acetone bath will disintegrate PUR over a period of about an hour. It's what I use to recycle the metal structure of a mis-cast part. Cheers, Damian D Bellis, chukw, LSP_Kevin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, D.B. Andrus said: A pure acetone bath will disintegrate PUR over a period of about an hour. This certainly gels with my experience. Kev D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Matt Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I wonder whether some photoetch high TPI saws might achieve your objective with less risk? There might be a need to for fill and re-scribing but perhaps it'd be simpler? Matty D.B. Andrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarLycan Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Thanks for the suggestions. Froze the part for a bit, slid a exacto blade under the edge and twisted. It popped right off. Thanks again! D Bellis, LSP_Kevin, D.B. Andrus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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