MikeC Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) I'm the first to admit my ordnance recognition skills lag somewhat behind my aircraft recognition skills, and I wondered if the collective expertise here on LSP can help me? I have a Hasegawa P-47 that I want to finish as a British Thunderbolt Mk II of 79 Sqn. My particular subject is KJ233/NV:G of 79 Sqn in Burma, seen at 2:55 in this short film: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060025281 There are various interesting points, including shots of bombs being loaded right at the start. Can anyone identify whether these are British bombs, or US-supplied bombs? If the latter, I can use the items in the kit. It would, of course, be expected that the RAF supply chain supplied British bombs: but were the mountings, fusing systems, etc compatible or even common with the US systems in the P-47? Or would appropriate mods have been undertaken to the aircraft? Or did they use US-supplied bombs? I'll put my can (of worms) opener away now: any information would be appreciated, and as the title says, enjoy the video anyway. Edited May 10, 2022 by MikeC John1, daveculp and TAG 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveculp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 They look British to me, but I'm not an expert. RAF bomb loading on Typhoon Great video! LSP_Matt and MikeC 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Matt Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, daveculp said: They look British to me, but I'm not an expert. RAF bomb loading on Typhoon Great video! They look British to me as well. The circular ring around the tail fins on the bombs seems to be a uniquely Brit thing. The bomb's shape also tapers towards the tail in a much more pronounced fashion than the US ones. Great video. Matty daveculp, MikeC and TAG 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroff Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 it's British bomb, there is one suspension lug only (US bomb has two lugs) nmayhew, MikeC and LSP_Matt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Thanks folks, British they are. I must have some suitable examples in the spares box somewhere... LSP_Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 British 500lb bombs as used on the Typhoon in ETO. MDC has some in their catalogue. MikeC and LSP_Matt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockie Yarwood Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Definitely British bombs, but moreover wow what a great high quality color video. Lots of good info there. Thanks for the link Mike! Cheers, Rockie LSP_Matt and MikeC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, thierry laurent said: MDC has some in their catalogue. Thanks one and all, and especially Thierry, that's useful info indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmayhew Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Great video - shows just how filthy these birds got. MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, nmayhew said: Great video - shows just how filthy these birds got. That's one reason this subject appealed to me - a chance to have a bit of fun with some weathering. It's interesting how on some of the aircraft (eg KL231/V at 03:11) the dark earth appears to have faded until it looks green (is that the weathering or an effect of the film itself?) Incidentally, has anyone else spotted the lone metal-finish bird at about 03:24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 10:29 PM, thierry laurent said: British 500lb bombs as used on the Typhoon in ETO. MDC has some in their catalogue. MDC do indeed have some in their catalogue, in fact three subtly different types. @Bob MDC which do you think? https://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.uk/details-conversions/49-mc500lb-tail-26-mk3-bomb.html or https://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.uk/details-conversions/47-mc500lb-tail-28-mk2-bomb.html or https://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.uk/details-conversions/48-mc500lb-tail-77-mk1-bomb.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 It looks the pictures show that type: https://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.uk/details-conversions/47-mc500lb-tail-28-mk2-bomb.html Hth Thierry MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 This pdf is available here and there on the web. This is one of the best sources about WW2 British bombs (with an old PSL book named "bombs gone"): https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjM5KfWxdn3AhWPy4UKHV9wDzwQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstephentaylorhistorian.files.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F02%2Fusnbd-british-bombs-and-pyrotechnics.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1niCqsf2cmFDOuvfA8yxHi or https://www.scribd.com/doc/47562908/British-Bombs-and-Fuzes This may help. There is also a wartime German analysis that shows all British bombs with their markings but I cannot remember where I found it! MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/11/2022 at 9:53 AM, MikeC said: That's one reason this subject appealed to me - a chance to have a bit of fun with some weathering. It's interesting how on some of the aircraft (eg KL231/V at 03:11) the dark earth appears to have faded until it looks green (is that the weathering or an effect of the film itself?) Incidentally, has anyone else spotted the lone metal-finish bird at about 03:24? I think that one's painted extra dark sea grey/dark green, as they were originally painted, if I remember correctly, the extra dark sea grey was over-painted dark earth when they were transiting Egypt. Great film, thanks for posting. MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Fantastic weathering reference. Also compare the absolutely filthy bomb casings to the immaculate tailfins. A common feature that many modelers miss. MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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