Dassault Mirage IV in 1/32. Roadmap for 2025 - 2026

[Tecnikit]

While we produce the J-58 models, and finish the Mirage IIIE monographic and the J-79 engine, we announce that we are starting the Mirage IV project in 1/32 scale.

 

https://www.tecnikit.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=page&id=31&language=en

 

😉

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit

[LSP_Kevin]

So it will be a full kit?

 

Kev

[Tecnikit]

9 hours ago, LSP_Kevin said:

So it will be a full kit?

 

Kev

 

Yes Kev. I put here the comments from our site:

 

The model will be made as usual with 3D laser printing, but with a special manufacturing system that we are perfecting and that will allow us to reduce the cost significantly in the fuselage and surfaces.

We will make slight modifications to the current ATAR 09C5 engine that we already sell to obtain the ATAR 9K50 variant that equipped the Mirage IV. In such a way that the model will include the high detailed nozzles and afterburners, and optional detailsets of the installed engine, in installation phase or exposed behind the aircraft.

This will also allow modelers building Dassault Etendard IV, Mirage F1, Mirage III, Mirage 5, Nesher, Mirage 50, Cheetah, Super Etendard, Super Mystere and SE-212 Durandal models to detail their 1/32 scale models with this engine, nozzle or nozzle and afterburner.

The landing gear will have metallic columns for the shock absorbers that will serve as internal reinforcement as we already did in the rear landing gear of the Mirage IIIE. It will also have other details that we can't reveal yet.

It will of course include cockpit and landing gear well detailing as standard.

[Tony T]

Sounds lovely. Is there a ballpark price at around £250, or is this strictly a rich man's toy at double that?

 

Tony 

[Tecnikit]

5 hours ago, Tony T said:

Sounds lovely. Is there a ballpark price at around £250, or is this strictly a rich man's toy at double that?

 

Tony 

 

It is too early. We never approach models with price in mind and less with a project like this. And we need to test the new manufacturing system we are going to use.

 

But if I were a modeler today and I was offered a Mirage IV in 1/32 scale with superdetailing, metal parts and laser 3D printing quality ... for 250 ( euros or pounds ) I would not believe it. We will see...

 

[alain11]

Hi

don't you think that the Mirage IV is a " niche " , I mean who will be interested by such " confidential " aircraft  in the modeling world ? .. and yes of course , I am French , I couldn't dream better that one day this beautiful plane ,will  become real at this scale ... so ... wait and see ..............for my part , I don't need an extra engine exposed behind the aircraft , or this could be an option , with , or without , to choose ... nice cockpit , detailed gear bays and legs ,  nice exhaust nozzles , and good surface details , that all we need 

Alain   

[Tecnikit]

11 hours ago, alain11 said:

Hi

don't you think that the Mirage IV is a " niche " , I mean who will be interested by such " confidential " aircraft  in the modeling world ? .. and yes of course , I am French , I couldn't dream better that one day this beautiful plane ,will  become real at this scale ... so ... wait and see ..............for my part , I don't need an extra engine exposed behind the aircraft , or this could be an option , with , or without , to choose ... nice cockpit , detailed gear bays and legs ,  nice exhaust nozzles , and good surface details , that all we need 

Alain   

 

Hello Alain:

 

Regarding the fact that it is a "confidential" plane, if you mean that it is a little known bomber outside of France by the general public, maybe. That would make a book. 

 

Objectively, the Mirage IV is one of the most beautiful aircraft in history and it’s all that matters.

 

The complete engine as you say will be an optional detailset. It will not be part of the Mirage IV. Will be a separate add-on. But at this moment we have the superdetailed ATAR 09C5. Then as first step we will convert the 09C5 in other superdetailed  9K50. And one time will be made, we will use only the afterburners and nozzles for the plane.

 

The intention now is to make a complete plane with the level of detail that characterizes us. Without limitations of any type. Time or costs. Then we can not put the price before start.

 

I don't understand the concept of doing things wrong to sell them cheaper. I wouldn't know what bolts not to do or what parts not to include.

 

But... could look for a way to make a model at a lower price as another variant. One in flight. With only one cockpit and with the landing gear wells closed. What do you think of the idea ?

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit

Edited March 30 by Tecnikit

[rafju]

Wow, great choice!

Did you or will you scan an actual model?

thanks

Waiting for the show!

[Tecnikit]

2 hours ago, rafju said:

Wow, great choice!

Did you or will you scan an actual model?

thanks

Waiting for the show!

 

I'm glad you like it. I feel the same way.

 

We never copy. For us that is unethical as well as illegal. And on the other hand, we do not want to replicate the mistakes that other manufacturers may have made. Accidentally or intentionally ( to demonstrate their ownership of designs ).

 

We start from real plans and photographs as always.

 

By the way, we are searching plans of the complete map of the fuselage ribs and wing ribs. No cutaways. Only construction or maintenance real technicals drawings. As well as details and pictures of the avionic compartment. We will apply a discount scale that can reach to 75% if the information is substantial in these points. If someone thinks that has something interesting about these, please send us an email before sending any document to confirm that can help.

 

Thank you !!

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit

 

 

Edited March 30 by Tecnikit

[rafju]

Oops sorry my bad english, of course "model" is not the correct word I wanted to say and made a misunderstood point, i just wanted to say the real plane, sorry.

There are some places, conservatory, museum, here in France, that would certainly allow you to scan the real thing.

Here for axample:

https://canopeechateaudun.fr/

and you can try to contact them about documentation.

and if you don't have this book, do not hesitate:

https://boutiquelariviere.fr/site/lariviere/livre_aviation_modelisme__lariv.48651.72534__/fr/kiosque/produit.html

 

Edited March 30 by rafju
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[alain11]

4 hours ago, Tecnikit said:

 

Hello Alain:

 

 

But... could look for a way to make a model at a lower price as another variant. One in flight. With only one cockpit and with the landing gear wells closed. What do you think of the idea ?

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit

hello

 

 thank you for your reply ..... well in " flight " !? just in the  aim to reduce the price ? .. not for me !! My curious eye likes to peer into the details, and God knows that the legs of the Mirage IV gear are  ...busy
There is a plethora of " walk around " picture on the Web.....as well books dedicated , plans etc...( there are a lot of hatches around the fuselage )

Alain 

[Tecnikit]

Rafju:

 

That's different! There are already 2 of us who have to be careful with our English. 😄

 

My experience with museums has not been satisfactory in terms of providing plans. I have seen them cataloged in a French government agency. But my French is very basic, and either I could not access them, or as already happened to me with the Mirage IIIE you must go in person to see them. I'll try again if I get clear.

 

I know the book by Hervé Beaumont. Even seeing it in many online stores, nobody shows if it contains useful and accurate diagrams. Too much money is spent on books that in most cases are useless as a source for engineering. But I have it on the last resort list.

 

Alain:

 

Yes, I know those walkaround. and they are very good for nuancing the plans. But you need non-perspective views and even less with wide angle effects of modern cameras.

 

It is true that there are plans on the Internet. But I can guarantee you that today it is difficult to find reliable plans.

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit

 

 

 

 

[rafju]

An other one nearest to Spain:

https://www.meacmtl.com/fiches-avions/dassault-aviation-mirage-iv-a/

[paul fisher]

What a marvelous subject for a it in 1/32 scale! Many years ago I had enlarged a simple general arrangement drawing of the Mirage IV to 1/32, it will make a very impressive model! 

[Tecnikit]

I think so, Paul. It's an impressive bird.

 

Rafju, I write down that other museum.

 

Taking advantage of this reply for other people in other forums who are mentioning this thread, no. It is not going to have a price of 4 numbers.

 

Javier Povedano

Tecnikit