19squadron Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: Like the title suggests, did the Spitfire MK IIa have a crowbar on the door? Thanks a bunch, Why are you asking? Building a Revell kit? or the Hasegawa? or converting a Tamiya MkIXc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 40 minutes ago, 19squadron said: Why are you asking? Building a Revell kit? or the Hasegawa? or converting a Tamiya MkIXc? 6 hours ago, LSP_K2 said: Excellent, just what I was after. I'm considering starting on my Revell kit (assuming I can actually find it), and Barracuda makes a couple of different doors. Edited January 23 by MikeC LSP_K2 and mozart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 hours ago, MikeC said: I believe the mod to introduce them was a retrospective one, so any Mk IIs in service subsequently may have had them fitted. The reality is, crowbars actually appeared in aircraft long after the clips to carry them, by which time most MkII's were either converted to MkV's or were on charge at OTU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, 19squadron said: The reality is, crowbars actually appeared in aircraft long after the clips to carry them, by which time most MkII's were either converted to MkV's or were on charge at OTU's. Absolutely right. Edited January 23 by MikeC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_K2 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, 19squadron said: Why are you asking? Building a Revell kit? or the Hasegawa? or converting a Tamiya MkIXc? Revell kit, the later, all new version. At least that's the plan at the moment. 19squadron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 30 minutes ago, LSP_K2 said: Revell kit, the later, all new version. At least that's the plan at the moment. Cool The biggest problem with that kit is it is 2mm too long between the spinner and cockpit, and too wide through the fuselage between engine and cockpit, both issues can be remedied. Have you a particular airframe? time period in mind? thierry laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 17 hours ago, mozart said: Ah, but what colour is the crowbar? RLM 83. monthebiff and Shoggz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monthebiff Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2024 at 7:01 PM, 19squadron said: Cool The biggest problem with that kit is it is 2mm too long between the spinner and cockpit, and too wide through the fuselage between engine and cockpit, both issues can be remedied. Have you a particular airframe? time period in mind? 2mm out, thats a shocker making the whole thing unbuildable surely? In the meantime I do like a bit of Crowbar https://www.google.com/search?q=crowbar+frank+carter&sca_esv=601534305&sxsrf=ACQVn08sKGNEF1G73jeNSbYrkgwjGIo7QA%3A1706222337169&source=hp&ei=AeOyZbGtCJOnhbIPwO-2wAs&gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TMuyTDEossg2YPQSSS7KL09KLFJIK0rMy1ZITiwqSS0CANdxDEM&oq=crowbar+fra&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCILY3Jvd2JhciBmcmEqAggAMgUQLhiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yCBAAGBYYHhgPMggQABgWGB4YD0iiR1CID1iHP3ABeACQAQCYAdcCoAGDCqoBBzcuMy4wLjG4AQHIAQD4AQGoAg_CAgcQIxjqAhgnwgINEC4YxwEY0QMY6gIYJ8ICBxAuGOoCGCfCAgoQIxiABBiKBRgnwgIEECMYJ8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAhAQLhiABBiKBRjHARivARgnwgIaEC4YgAQYsQMYxwEYrwEYmAUYngUYmQUYjgXCAggQLhiABBixA8ICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIHEAAYgAQYCuIDBBgBIGg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp dennismcc and Furie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Roberts Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 22 hours ago, monthebiff said: 2mm out, thats a shocker making the whole thing unbuildable surely? In the meantime I do like a bit of Crowbar Why should it be unbuildable? 2mm is easily fixed. And there are some here who are interested in that sort of information. Personally, I’d rather see that encouraged. monthebiff and 19squadron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monthebiff Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Pete Roberts said: Why should it be unbuildable? 2mm is easily fixed. And there are some here who are interested in that sort of information. Personally, I’d rather see that encouraged. I do apologise for my terrible humour Many a kit have been lambasted and been labelled unbuildable for less than this! Maybe time to go get back to the subject and go and get the Crowbar Pete Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The issue with such a length discrepancy is when it is located in a small area of the airframe. This IS visible in such a case. Otherwise, when the dimension error is global you simply cannot see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 2:00 AM, John1 said: RLM 83. unpainted steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19squadron Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/25/2024 at 10:46 PM, monthebiff said: 2mm out, thats a shocker making the whole thing unbuildable surely? In the meantime I do like a bit of Crowbar https://www.google.com/search?q=crowbar+frank+carter&sca_esv=601534305&sxsrf=ACQVn08sKGNEF1G73jeNSbYrkgwjGIo7QA%3A1706222337169&source=hp&ei=AeOyZbGtCJOnhbIPwO-2wAs&gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TMuyTDEossg2YPQSSS7KL09KLFJIK0rMy1ZITiwqSS0CANdxDEM&oq=crowbar+fra&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCILY3Jvd2JhciBmcmEqAggAMgUQLhiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yCBAAGBYYHhgPMggQABgWGB4YD0iiR1CID1iHP3ABeACQAQCYAdcCoAGDCqoBBzcuMy4wLjG4AQHIAQD4AQGoAg_CAgcQIxjqAhgnwgINEC4YxwEY0QMY6gIYJ8ICBxAuGOoCGCfCAgoQIxiABBiKBRgnwgIEECMYJ8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGMcBGNEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAhAQLhiABBiKBRjHARivARgnwgIaEC4YgAQYsQMYxwEYrwEYmAUYngUYmQUYjgXCAggQLhiABBixA8ICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIHEAAYgAQYCuIDBBgBIGg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp For some, yes, others will enjoy the challenge - many people just enjoy building OOB without, making corrections, others take the greatest pleasure in doing the research to make a model accurate and detailed. I have not seen one build on LSP or FB where any of the legion of errors - even in the cockpit which are relatively easily corrected with some scratch building - have been incorporated into the build. Which is really surprising since some of the errors are huge! But there you go! Each to his own! Pete Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepsGunsTanks Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) What was the crowbar for? Bonking Gerry due to pistol shortage? Banging the lid off the Teapot at altitude? Popping poorly fit panels off? Edited January 26 by JeepsGunsTanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Roberts Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 hours ago, JeepsGunsTanks said: What was the crowbar for? Bonking Gerry due to pistol shortage? Banging the lid off the Teapot at altitude? Popping poorly fit panels off? Emergency use to escape the cockpit if the canopy is jammed. LSP_K2 and 19squadron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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