frogman13 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Guys, I'm dying to know. Will Trumpeter release either the MiG-27 or MiG-23BN in 1/32 scale? They just released a MiG-27 in 1/48 scale. With 3 versions of the MiG-23 in 1/32nd, I thought that maybe we might expect a 27 or 23BN to follow along. I could be wrong though...would not be the first time for that ! I heard a rumor though, but I want to hear that rumor again from more than one source before I get my hopes up. Thanks ED Edited October 11, 2016 by frogman13 Zero77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywifehatesmodels Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Sorry, I don't have any rumors, but would love to see a 1/32 Mig 27. However, there were some serious concerns over their 1/48 kit of the BN. In particular, the nose/canopy. I haven't seen anything on the 27 yet to see if it's the same. I would hope that they could address that if scaling things up to 1/32. What I'm really hoping to see are some 1/32 Fitters. That would be a bench clearer for me, especially the Su 17/22. That's one that actually WAS a rumor and there were even some test shot photos floating around of a built up example in bare plastic. By the way, I was perusing your site, just the other night, after looking at your Egyptian Mig 17 for about the hundredth time (the one in the "Nile" camo). Great stuff and I would love to do one in the same fashion. It was very inspirational! John Edited October 11, 2016 by mywifehatesmodels Zero77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogman13 Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi John, Oh yeah, I'm right there with you on the SU-17/22. Would absolutely love to build that one. Of course a SU-7 would also knock me right out ! But getting back to the MiG-23 or 27, I just think a natural progression for a new kit would be for Trump to do the 23BN in the BIG scale as they already have the Flogger B kitted. The duck nose ground attack floggers have alot of character and there are loads of countries that use this plane. By the way, thanks for your compliment on my MiG-17. Much as that kit is maligned, it can be turned into a decent model if you just keep thinking that it's alot better than a vacu-form ! Brings back memories of super=detailing the old Revell kits, which really got me going in scale modeling. So much to fix and upgrade, and cheap too. Just time investment. Well hoping to hear more rumors.... Thanks, ED http://edokunscalemodelingpage.blogspot.com/ mywifehatesmodels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywifehatesmodels Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Ed, I totally agree on the Su-7, too. So many cool schemes to do for that one! It's funny that Trumpeter released the 1/32 Mig 23 first, then scaled it down to 1/48. But yes, it seems logical that they could do the reverse order with the 23BN/27 and surely hope they do. John P.S. I may want to ask for your assistance in the future for some Middle Eastern equipment and history questions. I'm toying with the idea of doing an "adversary" series featuring two 1/48 scale opponents from both the 1967 and 1973 conflicts. Already have a Mirage III and want to do the Egyptian Mig 17 to match for 1967 and a Mig 21 and something else IAF for '73. That's the plan, anyway. Edited October 11, 2016 by mywifehatesmodels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbetty Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) i just bought the Su 22 kit made by LEM and love it. i think this will be my next build after the yak 23. it will be in Iraqi colours with an assymetrical loadout..... Edited October 11, 2016 by blackbetty Lee White 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well, as we are still waiting for the 1/32 F-100F announced at least five years ago, I would not hold my breath... BTW, in spite it was first released in large scale, the F-100F was actually released in 1/48th scale. Except the announced MiG-29 s (yet to be released), I did not see any new large scale plane topic from Trumpeter for at least the last five years. All the released kit were projects started before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I have been asked by the marketing rep of wellknown Czech aftermarket company what to to add to the 1/32 range and suggested a BN conversion (and other stuff). Did so 2 years ago. Nothing there... A LEM 27 is on my wishlist too. Next year, I guess. Regards - dutik mywifehatesmodels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero77 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) I have both the LEM Su-17/22 and Su-7 and they looks very good. The Su-7 is even better, as there is a real cockpit, even if it must be detailed to look very good (but for the Su-17 it must be made from scratch as there is only a plain tub with almost nothing else). Of course an injected plastic would be better, but at the moment, i think others russian jets are still totally missing. I'm especially thinking about the Mig-25 and Su-15 (and why not a big Su-24?). A Mig-27 would be great, but i dont know if it shares enough parts with the Mig-23 so it can be a base for a new kit. Maybe it would need a brand new engineering and that's why they did not released it as a Mig-23 variant yet, nor anybody released a simple resin conversion. Edited October 11, 2016 by Zero77 Lee White and mywifehatesmodels 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 External differences are the whole front including the cockpit, simplified intakes, shorter exhaust cone, relocated and more pylons, another gun unter the belly and a different undercarriage. You keep the main fuselage, wings, tailplanes, external stores. Of course the devil is in the detail - avoiding to mix up and mismatch the different details of the 27s subvariants, size and type of sensors, Paneel lines and such stuff, but in general it is doable. Trumpeters Mig-23 kits have a seperate front part (nose and cockpit). UC legs are metal parts in an extra bag. The engine is on it's own sprues so easy to replace with another one. Trumpy has different wing sets at hand to choose the correct one. Regarding the extra and relocated fuselage pylons adding a template with "drill holes here" instructions would solve the issue. If Trumpy want to do so - a Trumpeter Mig-27 is doable without much trouble. Regards - dutik mywifehatesmodels and Zero77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywifehatesmodels Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I really do respect what companies like LEM/Ruprator are doing. That is, bringing us subjects that mainstream companies haven't touched and, in some cases, likely won't. I've always tried to support companies like that. However, as I grow older and my kids keep me more busy than ever, my time at the modeling bench is more precious than ever before (because there's less of it). So, I'm getting to the point that I'm not as motivated to start a project that's going to require a lot of scratch and extra work to get a finished product, even though I've done a fair amount of those types of builds in the past. For those absolute "must haves" that will likely never be done in plastic, I may make the exception. But, for something like the Mig 27, where a large scale, plastic Mig 23 already exists, it's hard for me to justify the time and effort on a resin version that's going to take a lot of extra work to get a similar looking product. John Lee White and Zero77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywifehatesmodels Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I have been asked by the marketing rep of wellknown Czech aftermarket company what to to add to the 1/32 range and suggested a BN conversion (and other stuff). Did so 2 years ago. Nothing there... A LEM 27 is on my wishlist too. Next year, I guess. Regards - dutik Not sure which company it was, or what their scope is, but a 1/32 correction set for the Trumpeter Mig 23 ML/MLD variants may be something they would want to look into. In particular, the nose/cockpit/canopy area, which would probably be the biggest/easiest correction that is needed for those sub-types. All of them have their flaws, but I think the later variants are the most noticed. Just my opinion, though. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutik Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 It's about marketing. How many Mig-23 correction sets does Zactoman sell? That is the issue. A conversion creating a Version looking totally different has much more sales potential than just a "plain correction" of a kit that looks (more or less) like the original. But they even put away the idea of a Mig-23 BN conversion... And if you watch close the break down of the Mig-23 sprues: Trumpeter has definitly considered to make a BN and even a 27, but they did not until today... Regards - dutik mywifehatesmodels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywifehatesmodels Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Good points, Dutik! dutik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatfreak Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I remember that Trumpeter announced a 1/32 MiG-27 many many years ago. Before they actually released their MiG-23 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 A 1/32 IM Sukhoi Su-15 Flagon is the proverbial Holy Grail for me. I'd even settle for a pantographed version of the smaller editions (I have all of them, in both scales), warts and all. Tony Zero77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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