richdlc Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Hi everyone - our upcoming He 219 book authors are currently writing the chapter on camouflage and markings. What would really help us out are high quality images taken of the airframe at the NASM Udvar Hazy Centre before assembly, specifically of the removed wing / wing root showing the original paint. Can anyone help? I don't mean those that are available online with a quick google search.... I know it's been discussed here before and perhaps someone can supply me / us directly with pics thanks in advance Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATCplSlade Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I'd love to help but mine were taken with a crap phone camera and are a bit blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hi Rich , do you mean before assembly of before restoration ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Talking of He 219 camouflages, on page 26 of "Wings of the Black Cross" volume seven written by Mark Proulx (member here) there is an aerial photo of an airfield with 29 x He 219 featuring all kinds of camouflages including some that have wide camouflage "bands". One aircraft appears to be wearing the kind of "usual" grey+green camouflage seen, for example, on Bf 109 or FW 190. This series of booklets includes more interesting photos of He 219. Radu later edit: although Mark Proulx wrote a few booklets in that series, volume seven was authored by Jerry Crandall. Edited May 14, 2020 by Radub LSP_K2 and Kagemusha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 hours ago, CATCplSlade said: I'd love to help but mine were taken with a crap phone camera and are a bit blurry. no worries, thanks anyway 1 hour ago, MikeMaben said: Hi Rich , do you mean before assembly of before restoration ? yes! This is the kind of thing we are after. Before assembly AND after restoration. If you can provide images like this one, and others, please do let me know 39 minutes ago, Radub said: Talking of He 219 camouflages, on page 26 of "Wings of the Black Cross" volume seven written by Mark Proulx (member here) there is an aerial photo of an airfield with 29 x He 219 featuring all kinds of camouflages including some that have wide camouflage "bands". One aircraft appears to be wearing the kind of "usual" grey+green camouflage seen, for example, on Bf 109 or FW 190. This series of booklets includes more interesting photos of He 219. Radu later edit: although Mark Proulx wrote a few booklets in that series, volume seven was authored by Jerry Crandall. thanks Radu - IIRC Eddie Creek has the image in his collection, but didn't know it was in the pubic domain. Will try and track down the Wings of the Black Cross book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, richdlc said: thanks Radu - IIRC Eddie Creek has the image in his collection, but didn't know it was in the pubic domain. Will try and track down the Wings of the Black Cross book You can get the books here: http://www.eagle-editions.com/library-of-eagles-aviation-civil-war-and-western-books/wings-of-the-black-cross HTH Radu Shawn M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) And that is the reason why I did not scan the photo and post it here. Instead I quoted the title of the book, the author and the page number. This is standard procedure for quoting existing work. I posted a link to the publisher's website where these books can be purchased. My point was that, since Richard is working on the "camouflage section", it is worth looking at this photo which shows a camouflage pattern that was not mentioned in other sources. My point was never that Richard should steal that photo. Richard can easily contact Jery Crandall and discuss permissions and information. In my experience, most holders of such photographs share them for free. Radu Edited May 14, 2020 by Radub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 PM sent richdlc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Radub said: You can get the books here: http://www.eagle-editions.com/library-of-eagles-aviation-civil-war-and-western-books/wings-of-the-black-cross HTH Radu Radu - is this the photo (this is a screen grab of a low res thumbnail only) you mention? If so, we have it thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Yes, that is the photo. The plane on the left on the bottom row has a very interesting camouflage scheme. Radu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 indeed! Cheers anyway mate Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Such a shame they all ended in the scrapper... Out2gtcha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Hi Rich , I can send you some pix but your inbox is full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdlc Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, MikeMaben said: Hi Rich , I can send you some pix but your inbox is full. thanks - I just cleared some space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Still won't let me in. Check your email , let me know if it came thru. It's big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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