Radub Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Thanks Craig, that actually makes sense. OK, we are getting somewhere. I checked the props and indeed they are too long - however, a long prop blade is always easier to fix than a short blade, isn't it?. Also, I see what you mean about the "backwards" thing - can that be a trick of the eye to do with the way in which the prop root is scalloped? I think that with a little bit of work, the props are still more useable than the skinny planks that come with the Hasegawa kit. Why did it take so long (and so much emotive speak) to get to these nuggets of truth? I never claimed that I was an expert (in anything) and I really want to learn about the Mustang. However, what I find is that there are plenty of people more than willing to offer opinion (especially when it involves pooping on something), but very few willing to offer facts. I want to know the facts about this kit. I got plenty of the opinion so far, thank you. Radu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burl Burlingame Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ah, I think I've found it! You have to look down the face of the Dragon blade toward the cuff. On the backside of the blade, where it meets the cuff, the joint is rounded in a slight airfoil shape. On the front of the blade, in the same spot, the joint is absolutely flat and straight. Either it should be the same as the backside, or should have a bit more airfoil. It's what makes the blade seem bassackwards. In fact, from the cuff base to the cuff joint, the airfoil totally flattens out. Yes, this is from looking at the actual kit parts. Next question: Is this true of the real Mustang? I rather doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burl Burlingame Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I think that with a little bit of work, the props are still more useable than the skinny planks that come with the Hasegawa kit. Amen to that. Now that I know what's wrong with the Dragon blades, I'm tempted to fix one and make resin copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValiantWagon Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Remarkable, seven pages devoted to a $40 piece of plastic or rather part of a $40 piece of plastic. Imagine if it were something important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourist Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Why did it take so long (and so much emotive speak) to get to these nuggets of truth? I never claimed that I was an expert (in anything) and I really want to learn about the Mustang. However, what I find is that there are plenty of people more than willing to offer opinion (especially when it involves pooping on something), but very few willing to offer facts. I I didn't see any emotive postings or anyone just poop on the kit. Everyone stated his opinion (what else could they be) trying to explain it and provided photos or links to illustrate their point. You dismissed them until a well known Mustang specialist like Craig got involved. That's great I trust him too, but I don't see why you think others offered anything less than valid, informed opinions. I stated clearly that Dragon's prop was too beefy, had no airfoil and was inverted. Anyway, I'm glad we came to a conclusion, if Buzz and others think their can correct the prop that's great. The conclusion is that Dragon's prop is incorrect. Best, Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radub Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Christian, I wish to make it clear that I do not know Craig and I never knew that he was an expert. (In fact, I still have no idea who the man behind the login is) Craig was the first to put in words exactly what is wrong with the prop. That is what I was looking for all along. Show me where all that info was provided before, show me how I ignored it and I will apologise. I did not dismiss anyone, not even you. Radu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig361 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Radub, my comment about the computer and internet connection was not aimed at you or anyone else. It was basically a reflection on why I seldom if at all post here anymore. Someone who is no longer on the LSP Staff got a little agitated for some reason about the amount of responses I was giving in answer to questions about P-51's and the resulting kudo's I was getting for sharing the information. I've never claimed to be an expert on the Mustang, just someone who has a genuine interest in it. This person posted that (best I recall) anyone could be an expert by getting on the internet and finding the info in 5 minutes. Well, I haven't spent all the time and money buying and studying books, manuals and the real thing for that nonsense so that's why I haven't posted anything in a while. I've never minded sharing what I've learned about the Mustang, just been glad to help out. My apology for all misunderstood intent. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 ...The bottom of the cuff also needs to be recontoured to the correct shape. How come when I said this (see a few pages back), not many believed me? I even provided pictures and what I thought would be a good correction.. I'm not a Mustang expert either, but I too have pictures, books, (but no manual) on this aircraft. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourist Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Tim, I was wondering the same thing. Radu, I can understand if Craig's explanation made more sense to you. I didn't get that on your previous post. Thanks for the precision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Kevin Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 OK, glad that's settled. Can we all go down the pub now? Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP_Ray Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 OK, glad that's settled. Can we all go down the pub now? Kev I agree with Kev. As for my first official statement as a newly appointed moderator, I would like to just say let's see more hard facts and less sniping at other's statements. I know there are a lot of 'Stangs out there. How about someone beg, plead and/or whine to a museum's staff about taking some direct measurements and some good detail photos? I have seen a few, but would be nice to see a point by point comparison of the real thing to the kit prop. I know I will be trying my best to get close to the Mustang at the Spruce Goose museum next chance I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwing Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Craig, Good to see you back man...keep broadcasting in the open. Im listening. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burl Burlingame Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Remarkable, seven pages devoted to a $40 piece of plastic or rather part of a $40 piece of plastic. Imagine if it were something important. The propeller is a pretty prominent part of a propeller-powered aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pratt Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Big Kev!You mentioned pints!Did I mention I now have a new beer fridge in the hobby room!It's not to scale but the pints are cold...cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernut Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 How about this shot of the base of the prop? Right outta the Aero Detail book on the P-51D. I think it shows the blade cuff area pretty good. Tim <---regularly beats dead horses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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