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To Settle All Speculation about a 1/35th Horsa


Bill Cross

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Now for a Hamilcar and a big 323 :lol:

 

And if we get gliders, my Stirling should be close behind.... The worlds most beautiful ugly airplane...

 

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Well I dunno about speculation ... I knew a Horsa was on the way - from someone!

The German glider is a surprise!!! - I wonder if it's relevant to May 1940??

The Pz35(t) and the PzII.Ausf.J are also surprises ... So I guess I'm throwing around some more $$$

Thanks Bill ... Not! LOL :D

Now all I need is a Ju52 ... And no, there hasn't been any announcement other than the stillborn MB one.

 

Rog :)

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Now all I need is a Ju52 ... And no, there hasn't been any announcement other than the stillborn MB one.

 

Rog :)

Rog, word in the halls of Armorama is that the "Tante Ju" is in the works from someone. I would suspect Bronco for it and the Sky Train, as the para figures they've released recently call out for planes.

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Speculation?  What speculation - this was announced some time ago (with the same box art pics btw), so no need for pretend drama :)

 

That being said, I'll be picking a Horsa, as well as the DFS-230B when they finally do come out - should look great in my display case with the other 1/35 armor and 1/32 aircraft :)

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Doug, give it a rest.

 

In several threads, there was some disbelief that any company would put out a 1/35 kit for planes or gliders and not in 1/32nd scale. Since it's not a scale that some here know much about, I figured it was best to let them know. If you know all about it, then there's nothing for you here, right?

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I think we can all relax guys.

IIRC, the previous 1/35th thread was much less about disbelief that any company would put out a 1/35 kit for planes or gliders VS 1/32nd scale, and more about the particular air-frame (C-47) being better off made in 35th VS 32nd.

 

 

At least that is the way I took it.

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Brian, my take on all this is that information is king. If someone already knows, that's great. If they don't, then it's good to know.

 

Whether a C-47 comes out in 32 or 35 scale is above my pay grade. Don't kill the messenger, even if the information is old. :)

 

And I heartily recommend the "ignore" function on this site! :innocent:

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Brian, my take on all this is that information is king. If someone already knows, that's great. If they don't, then it's good to know.

 

Whether a C-47 comes out in 32 or 35 scale is above my pay grade. Don't kill the messenger, even if the information is old. :)

 

And I heartily recommend the "ignore" function on this site! :innocent:

 

 

No worries on that Bill. Info is king indeed, and if it gets to those who aren't aware, then mission accomplished.

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... In several threads, there was some disbelief that any company would put out a 1/35 kit for planes or gliders and not in 1/32nd scale ...

 

IIRC, Bill ... Master Box (Ukraine company mainly noted for their figurine sets) originally propositioned 1/35 Gliders, C-47 (Dakota) and Ju-52 ... The latter 2 were to feature a set of complimentary paratroops.

 

This was circa 2009 ... A couple of years went by with no new news - so I emailed them to enquire. Apparently MB were feeling the after effects of the GFC and had decided to halt the aircraft idea - at least for the short term. The reply email noted also that they were reconsidering 1/32 as the scale also ... 

 

It seems that they may have been further along than just the initial CAD design? ... If, as it appears, Bronco is bringing out the subjects that MB announced those many moons ago (certainly the Horsa is a good indication!) - it may be designs were sold to them? ... I saw an official announcement some time ago for the Pz35(t) - with Academy releasing their 'new tool' effort shortly after - but I am yet to see an official announcement for the C-47 or Ju-52 (which is what I'm REALLY interested in) ... When I see some kind of announcement (forecast approximate release date etc) - I'll buy in some more.

 

I didn't know Bronco had released paratroop figures! ... the ones available with the German Glider kit are from Dragon ... there are very few representations of early Falschirmjager around in 1/35 ... I suppose the later sets can be adapted backwards - but I'm always sceptical about the uniforms!!

 

Rog :)

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IIRC, Bill ... Master Box (Ukraine company mainly noted for their figurine sets) originally propositioned 1/35 Gliders, C-47 (Dakota) and Ju-52 ... The latter 2 were to feature a set of complimentary paratroops.

If, as it appears, Bronco is bringing out the subjects that MB announced those many moons ago (certainly the Horsa is a good indication!) - it may be designs were sold to them? ... I saw an official announcement some time ago for the Pz35(t) - with Academy releasing their 'new tool' effort shortly after - but I am yet to see an official announcement for the C-47 or Ju-52 (which is what I'm REALLY interested in) ... When I see some kind of announcement (forecast approximate release date etc) - I'll buy in some more.

 

I didn't know Bronco had released paratroop figures! ... the ones available with the German Glider kit are from Dragon ... there are very few representations of early Falschirmjager around in 1/35 ... I suppose the later sets can be adapted backwards - but I'm always sceptical about the uniforms!!

 

Rog :)

Rog, I don't doubt your assertion that it was Master Box and not Mini Art. Both are at the cutting edge of figures these days, and perhaps realized they were not in a good place to go into aircraft. Armor guys were jazzed at the time, but skeptical the kits would come out. Thank goodness Bronco have taken over. Whether a Waco, Sky Train or a "Tante Ju" will follow will, I don't doubt, depend on whether the Horsa sells well enough. We tend to lose sight of the fact that model companies are in the business of making money. :mental:

 

Bronco's paras so far have been all Allied (mostly Brit), so a good fit with the Horsa (see the other thread where I posted some box art photos). They may feel that Dragon has already cornered the Fallschirmjäger market. I'm no expert on German para uniforms, so I will take your word for it.

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I think that the operative words here were "We tend to lose sight of the fact that model companies are in the business of making money". If the interest of the armor modelers drives the creation of some of the interesting models we desire as aircraft modelers, then we might expect that those models will appear in the scale that drove that interest.

 

As much as I'd love to see some airliners in 1/32, I doubt that the interest is large enough to attract the attention of a model company looking for a decent rate of return on their investment in tooling a plastic model. That return is larger for a resin company, but still costs quite a bit, as seen with HPH.

 

Only when we have a "true believer" in charge do we have the WNW effect, where the presence of the kits may just create a new market. Roden is pretty quiet in 1/32 WWI, and that may be a result of their possible strategy of using the return on one kit to generate tooling for more, like any cash limited company would do.

 

Bottom line, if the Ju-52 and C-47 are injection molded in 1/35, they will cost a lot less than resin alternatives in 1/32. They may have to sit on their own shelf, but they could still look nice. I can wish for 1/32, but realistically have way more than enough kits that I want to build already. (just don't tell that to my wife). It's not like I am going to find lots of 1/32 scale armor or trucks to put next to my WWI airplanes either, and both are interesting subjects.

 

Tnarg

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