BF109G-14 AS Question

[James Rademaker]

Good morning,

  I have a question for our BF 109experts. I’m building the Hasegawa BF 109G-14 AS. I noticed that there are wider wheels and the larger upper wing bumps. I read that some later AS models had the wider wheels. Did they also have the larger wing bulges? The model comes with the wider wheels and larger wing bumps. I appreciate and guidance on this subject.

 

Thanks,

Jim

[Juggernut]

I'm nowhere near an expert but based on what I've read says that IF a given 109G-14/AS were equipped with the larger main wheels (660 x 190) then it most definitely would have the larger wing bulges.  The larger wheels wouldn't fit into the wells that were not so enlarged.  I purposely capitalized the "IF" in my previous sentence because in one of my sources it only alludes to the possibility that larger main wheels/tires could have been installed on a very small number of 109G-14/AS but there is no photographic evidence of it (Wolowski, p.37).  Another of my sources doesn't even mention (that I'm able to locate) the larger main wheels/tires until the 109G-10 (Mermet, p. 129).  I wouldn't use the larger main wheels/tires and bulges unless you can definitively determine your subject is a Bf109G-14/AS and not a Bf109G-10.

 

REFERENCES:

 

Wolowski, K.(2010), Bf109 late versions, camouflage and markings, Mushroom Model Publications, Poland. (p.37)

Mermet, J.-C. and Ehrengardt, C.J. (2016), Messerschmitt bf109, Caraktere Publishing, France. (p.129)

[James Rademaker]

Thanks Juggernaut,

Jim

[tucohoward]

Pretty sure the Hasegawa G-14 AS is the same kit as their G-10. That's what I have been using them for anyway as they seem to be a lot easier to come by.

 

Jay

[thierry laurent]

5 minutes ago, tucohoward said:

Pretty sure the Hasegawa G-14 AS is the same kit as their G-10. That's what I have been using them for anyway as they seem to be a lot easier to come by.

 

Jay

Indeed, same sprues with different decals, instructions and box.

[James Rademaker]

So, what your saying I can build the G-14AS as a G-10? If so, that’s not a bad idea.

Thanks,

Jim

[thierry laurent]

7 minutes ago, James Rademaker said:

So, what your saying I can build the G-14AS as a G-10? If so, that’s not a bad idea.

Thanks,

Jim

Actually it is far easier as the kit has the G10 features whereas building a G14AS asks for some changes.

 

[James Rademaker]

Much appreciated gents, that settles it, I’m going to make it as a G-10. 
Thanks,

Jim

[Juggernut]

I'm building a Bf109G-10 right now.  I found the Revell kit for a VERY good price at a recent show so I scooped it up, brought it home, ordered some aftermarket for it and I'm working the cockpit right now.  Mine will be somewhat different to the Hasegawa G-10 in that the Revell kit is an Erla built machine whereas I think the Hasegawa kit is more closely aligned with an MTT built machine...  That though, is just a guess on my part; I don't have the Hasegawa kit to look at.

[James Rademaker]

A question, what is a MTT built machine?

Jim

[fastterry]

That's a nasty stutter you've got there. Mtt short for Messerschmitt Regensburg.

 

TRF

[Juggernut]

With respect to only the 109G-10; there were three “entities” that built the Bf109G-10; one was Messerschmitt AG in Regensburg (MTT), Erla (Leipzig), and Weiner Neustadt Flugzeugwerke GmbH (WNF).  WNF was joined by Diana in December of 1944. (Wolowski, p. 7).

 

These manufacturers had some unique characteristics of the aircraft they produced and many photographs of G-10’s can be identified by these characteristics, particularly in the Erla built airframes.  There were also very specific blocks of werke numbers assigned to each firm that can be used to positively identify which firm built which aircraft provided the week number is known.  There’s more to the story here but I’ve given you the 50,000 foot level view.  
 

If you’re curious about airframes or werke numbers, just ask and I or someone with much more knowledge than I possess will provide an answer.  LOL, I just got the two books a few weeks ago…they’re full of great information.
 

REFERENCES:

 

same as in the above post.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Juggernut

[James Rademaker]

WOW, thanks for the view from 50K. I really appreciate your help. I guess it’s like North American producing the P-51B or C models. C was in Dallas and B in CA. 
Jim

[thierry laurent]

The Hasegawa kit depicts a Regensburg-built G-10.  

[nmayhew]

On 11/2/2022 at 1:42 AM, Juggernut said:

With respect to only the 109G-10; there were three “entities” that built the Bf109G-10; one was Messerschmitt AG in Regensburg (MTT), Erla (Leipzig), and Weiner Neustadt Flugzeugwerke GmbH (WNF).  WNF was joined by Diana in December of 1944. (Wolowski, p. 7).

 

These manufacturers had some unique characteristics of the aircraft they produced and many photographs of G-10’s can be identified by these characteristics, particularly in the Erla built airframes.  There were also very specific blocks of werke numbers assigned to each firm that can be used to positively identify which firm built which aircraft provided the week number is known.  There’s more to the story here but I’ve given you the 50,000 foot level view.  
 

If you’re curious about airframes or werke numbers, just ask and I or someone with much more knowledge than I possess will provide an answer.  LOL, I just got the two books a few weeks ago…they’re full of great information.
 

REFERENCES:

 

same as in the above post.

 

I know you are in US but where did you buy the J-C Mermet book?