thierry laurent Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 The 4+ booklet about the F22/24 is a good source of pictures. The wing fold is indeed one area that stays mysterious regarding the well changes. But there are other changes such as the guns heating system and the LG is also different (the bump in the upper wing is larger). It is really a pity they removed close to all the typical FR47 features when they restored the warbird. Her cockpit looks like an early war Spit one. Moreover, even if they removed the guns and locked the wings, I always wondered how looked her wells. I never found any good picture of the area of that plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 10 hours ago, thierry laurent said: The 4+ booklet about the F22/24 is a good source of pictures. The wing fold is indeed one area that stays mysterious regarding the well changes. But there are other changes such as the guns heating system and the LG is also different (the bump in the upper wing is larger). It is really a pity they removed close to all the typical FR47 features when they restored the warbird. Her cockpit looks like an early war Spit one. Moreover, even if they removed the guns and locked the wings, I always wondered how looked her wells. I never found any good picture of the area of that plane. Hi, If you had to decide which color(s) to use in the cockpit, would it be green or black? Or, we can't decide on which one so lets go with both? Green lower half, Black Upper half! I read the gear struts were 4.5 inches longer, and the wheel track was widened by 7.25 inches on the FR.47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Frame 11 needs a notch so it can sit back. MikeC, Landrotten Highlander, Greg W and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Alas, the full cockpit was black. MikeC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Are there any photos that show how much the rear of the radiators was cut back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 6:11 AM, Chek said: Are there any photos that show how much the rear of the radiators was cut back? Cut back how? What are you looking for exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 This is the left wing of PK724 in the RAF Museum Hendon.and this is FreightDogs wheel blister. They look pretty much the same to my eye. BradG and Greg W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chek Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, Shogun said: Cut back how? What are you looking for exactly? The Seafire 47's flaps are larger than those on the Spitfire 24, and that required the rear of the rad housings to be adapted to allow flap travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Shogun said: This is the left wing of PK724 in the RAF Museum Hendon.and this is FreightDogs wheel blister. They look pretty much the same to my eye. PK724 is a Mk.24 by the way, missed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Chek said: The Seafire 47's flaps are larger than those on the Spitfire 24, and that required the rear of the rad housings to be adapted to allow flap travel. Okay, got it! The Mk.24 flap surface area was increased from earlier Marks. But will have to look into the larger flaps on the FR.47..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 Okay Chek, Let's start with the Mk.22/24 and see what we can see...this is a Mk.22, and we can clearly see the flap and aileron leading edges on this wing. The aileron is cut out forward of the flap, in other words, the aileron extends farther into the wing than the flap. And looking at the radiator fairing at the bottom (the right radiator) we can clearly see the exit door is a rectangle shape. And by the way, check out the oil soaked wing center section and fuselage!! Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 The previous photo shows the right flap of the Mk.24 at the Imperial War Museum. The Radiator fairing is cut back at an angle towards the wing. And we can clearly see a panel line running parallel to the flap leading edge. This could be the FR.47 flap hinge point, or leading edge.This is a Seafire F Mk.46, and the aileron and flap leading edge lines look exactly like the ones on the Mk.22, They show up very well. The aileron leading edge is extending into the wing more than the flap. We measured the angle of the radiator cut back at the end and it is 32 degrees. Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 PS946 is a Seafire Mk.47. We can't see the leading edge of the flap line very well, but we can see the radiator exit door of the upper radiator (the left). It is clearly not a rectangle (two pairs of parallel lines), but a trapezoid (one pair of parallel lines). Which means the radiator fairings are not a rectangle shape. If you look very close you can see the flap leading edge line, and it is forward of the aileron leading edge.These are the FreightDog radiators, they did their homework on these. MikeC and Greg W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 Imagine if they built the Pentagon in Washington D.C. not as a pentagon shape, but as a Trapezoid. "Let's go now to Bill standing by at the 'Trapezoid' for this special report." Sorry about that, anyway this is FR Mk.47 VP441and we can clearly see the flap actuator bump and the flap leading edge. It is clearly forward of the aileron's. Greg W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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