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The 4+ booklet about the F22/24 is a good source of pictures. The wing fold is indeed one area that stays mysterious regarding the well changes. But there are other changes such as the guns heating system and the LG is also different (the bump in the upper wing is larger). It is really a pity they removed close to all the typical FR47 features when they restored the warbird. Her cockpit looks like an early war Spit one. :angry2:  Moreover, even if they removed the guns and locked the wings, I always wondered how looked her wells. I never found any good picture of the area of that plane. :hmmm:

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10 hours ago, thierry laurent said:

The 4+ booklet about the F22/24 is a good source of pictures. The wing fold is indeed one area that stays mysterious regarding the well changes. But there are other changes such as the guns heating system and the LG is also different (the bump in the upper wing is larger). It is really a pity they removed close to all the typical FR47 features when they restored the warbird. Her cockpit looks like an early war Spit one. :angry2:  Moreover, even if they removed the guns and locked the wings, I always wondered how looked her wells. I never found any good picture of the area of that plane. :hmmm:

Hi,  If you had to decide which color(s) to use in the cockpit, would it be green or black?  Or, we can't decide on which one so lets go with both? Green lower half,

 Black Upper half! 

I read the gear struts were 4.5 inches longer, and the wheel track was widened by 7.25 inches on the FR.47

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57 minutes ago, Shogun said:

Cut back how? What are you looking for exactly?

The Seafire 47's flaps are larger than those on the Spitfire 24, and that required the rear of the rad housings to be adapted to allow flap travel.

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4 hours ago, Chek said:

The Seafire 47's flaps are larger than those on the Spitfire 24, and that required the rear of the rad housings to be adapted to allow flap travel.

Okay, got it! The Mk.24 flap surface area was increased from earlier Marks. But will have to look into the larger flaps on the FR.47.....

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Okay Chek,

Let's start with the Mk.22/24 and see what we can see...bUv0H2.jpgthis is a Mk.22, and we can clearly see the flap and aileron leading edges on this wing. The aileron is cut out forward of the flap, in other words, the aileron extends farther into the wing than the flap. And looking at the radiator fairing at the bottom (the right radiator) we can clearly see the exit door is a rectangle shape.  And by the way, check out the oil soaked wing center section and fuselage!! ucRaq4.jpg

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The previous photo shows the right flap of the Mk.24 at the Imperial War Museum. The Radiator fairing is cut back at an angle towards the wing. And we can clearly see a panel line running parallel to the flap leading edge. This could be the FR.47 flap hinge point, or leading edge.xWoAYY.jpgThis is a Seafire F Mk.46, and the aileron and flap leading edge lines look exactly like the ones on the Mk.22, They show up very well. The aileron leading edge is extending into the wing more than the flap. We measured the angle of the radiator cut back at the end and it is 32 degrees.vYwNC4.jpg

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PS946 is a Seafire Mk.47. We can't see the leading edge of the flap line very well, but we can see the radiator exit door of the upper radiator (the left). It is clearly not a rectangle (two pairs of parallel lines), but a trapezoid (one pair of parallel lines). Which means the radiator fairings are not a rectangle shape. If you look very close you can see the flap leading edge line, and it is forward of the aileron leading edge.76ROL6.jpgThese are the FreightDog radiators, they did their homework on these.

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Imagine if they built the Pentagon in Washington D.C. not as a pentagon shape, but as a Trapezoid. "Let's go now to Bill standing by at the 'Trapezoid' for this special report."

  Sorry about that, anyway this is FR Mk.47 VP441PgNkP5.jpgand we can clearly see the flap actuator bump and the flap leading edge. It is clearly forward of the aileron's.

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