Guest DeanKB Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 And page 43 of Osprey's "Production Line to Frontline Focke-Wulf Fw 190" shows white "528" on the cowlng. Link to post Share on other sites
chuckschilling 35 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Thanks to everyone who has responded. I don't have the references some of you do and appreciate the information you have provided. Uncarina and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
fockewings 143 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hei, guys. May I be allowed to add my two euro-cents? I thank the author for the comparison and since I have been lucky to have both kits for comparison I agree with most of the findings. But I may want to correct the author in regards of the fan and spinner. The old hasegawa kit has the correct spinner diameter as does the new revell kit. The newer kit-spinner from hasegawa is to small with having the correct shape. You can see that on the new hasegawa fan since the blades of this appear to long and narrow. Also a good friend of mine, Henri Dähne known for his superb and accurate props and spinners has been measuring the original parts and produced a superb prop and spinner for the FW190. As you may guess the diameter of this one is identical to those to kits and can be put onto the new mold hasegawa spinner with minor mods. I personally like the Revell much better since all parts for the undercarriage are more advanced and more proper in detail. Hasegwa took some shortcuts there and this is really the point together with the engine and the canopies where Revell wins hands down. Another thing are the superb cooling grills which are better in shape and openings. Hasegawas are too long and thin. Panel lines are more not as deeply engraved as on the Hasegawa kit and in most places more correct. A quick word to the underside with the two guide brackets mentioned. Those were indeed used on a FW190 with an ETC bguiding exhaust gasses backwards without polluting gears and underside of the wing. Again those are only my observations and hopefully they are received as addendum to the great review/comparison. Cheers D Bellis, Out2gtcha, BGB and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
D Bellis 2,878 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 You're welcome, and thank you! Henri Dähne known for his superb and accurate props and spinners has been measuring the original parts and produced a superb prop and spinner for the FW190. Bill Strandberg also purportedly measured the real thing (Fw 190F-8 at the NASM Udvar Hazy facility), which is what I went by: http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1361876091/Fw+190+A-F+Spinners Until I see a photo of someone holding a measuring instrument against an original Fw 190A/F/G spinner, no one's information is any more or less credible. D BGB and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
LSP_Ray 8,479 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Fockewings, just to clarify things: When you say 'old' Hasegawa kit, do you mean the 70's stuff? So then the 'new' kit is the more recent (not really new) Fw190F-8? You also threw me by saying the 'new' Hasegawa spinner has the correct shape. I thought that was the primary problem with the 'more-recent' Hasegawa spinner: it is too pointy. mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BGB 464 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hello, Interesting this spinner/prop thing! Cheers Boris mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore 1,326 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Aircraft with number on them in that fashion seem to have been belonging to training units. mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth 82 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Here are photos of the actual aircraft for which Revell has provided decal options. Darn! I almost got this kit thinking there exists a photo of a Fw 190F-8 with a shark mouth on the fuel tank! None there at all! Regards, mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BGB 464 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hello, Not on the droptank but on the bomb. Cheers Boris mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wegener 129 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I have an idea lurking at the back of my head that I recently read an article about FW 190s with those white numbers on the nose. Will try to locate it tonight. mpk and BGB 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth 82 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not on the droptank but on the bomb. Thanks Boris, I have yet to see anything hung under a Fw 190 with a sharkmouth. Regards, mpk 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wegener 129 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Contact! Air Modeller issue 15 from 2007/08. The author, Eric Larger, concluded that they were either training aircraft or, in his opinion, the numbers indicated where the aircraft fitted into a repair sequence. Personally this latter sounds a little odd to me as the numbers are surely bigger and neater than would be necesasry for that purpose but I'm no sort of expert on this so he may well be correct, although I'd go with the training unit hypothesis myself. Hardcore and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BGB 464 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thanks Boris, I have yet to see anything hung under a Fw 190 with a sharkmouth. Regards, Hello Sharkmouth, I thought the same thing as you and discussed it with a friend and don't be surprised the day after somebody on some site did put up a pic with the sharkmouth on the bomb, exactly as in the revell kit,I have been searching for the pic today but havent found it and I dont remembe ron which site I saw it . Hope someone can chime in here if they remember or have seen the pic I referred to. Cheers Boris RBrown and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
GeeBee 48 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) "Fw-190 in foreign service" (Vol.2 KECAY books) has some pictures. http://www.karaya.pl/en/kecay/0/captured-butcherbirds-fw-190s-part-2-in-foreign-service-kcy05.html?ref=/en/kecay/0/3/1/items.html One of these hungarians Fw-190 F-8 #54 has "sharkmouths" painted on its wing and belly bombs Edited June 3, 2015 by GeeBee BGB, RBrown, mpk and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
fockewings 143 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 You're welcome, and thank you! Bill Strandberg also purportedly measured the real thing (Fw 190F-8 at the NASM Udvar Hazy facility), which is what I went by: http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1361876091/Fw+190+A-F+Spinners Until I see a photo of someone holding a measuring instrument against an original Fw 190A/F/G spinner, no one's information is any more or less credible. D Well, let me try to put it this this way: Being myself an aircraft mechanic, having seen the real thing more than once and discussing the "new mold-hasegawa" over the tool with Henri for some days I dont doubt his word. He is a tool-maker of the old school and he mentioned a fact to me that even with original parts measured there are differnce from up to 1cm ! Between part and original drawing taken from archives in museums. And I am not talking about drawings which were made after the war but production drawings. So one has to just take a look at pics and compare them to the model and you will see the fan is out of proportion together with the spinner. D.B. Andrus and mpk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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