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OK, this will be my third GB build for this year. I am thinking about something more ancient made by soviet aircraft industries.

 

3 choices:

- Il-2 doubleseater

Had a look at the new kit by Hobby Boss. Looks nice. But it has to be paid...

 

- Po-2

There is a nice paper kit from Poland. 600 parts! Plus lasercut add-on available. Only drawback: Well, it is a stringbag. Hmmm...

 

- ANT-1

Tupulevs first bird. A tiny passenger aircraft made of corrugated sheet metal. Junkersblech, you know. I have the drawings at home, but I am on the road this moment. Have to check this after return. Especially the kind of corrugation, i. e.: if I have suitable plastic sheet at hand, to avoid the look of a Nissen hut...

 

Feel free to vote.

 

Regards!

- dutik

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With the big guns and colourful camo (green, black, brown, iirc) plus a patriotic slogan.

 

 

Yep, gotta go with a vote for that one!

 

Cant wait to see what you come up with........

 

Cheers,

Brian

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I will weigh in for Po-2. It's a really nice kit. Designer's name, Mistewicz, guarantees great fit and really enjoyable build. With number of parts it may be bit challenging, but hey, what a satisfaction!

I checked LSP database and it seems there is no Polikarpov on the list. Another great reason to build it!

And finally, it's paper :evil_laugh:

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Hi dutik,

 

I don't know about lightning striking twice, but it looks like it may be striking three times in your case! Personally, I would love to see the ANT-1 come to life, as it would be so unique and unusual. However, it would put you under enourmous pressure to comlete it within the dead line (especially with two other builds in tow as well), so I therefore go with the communal movement in true socialist style and also vote for the IL-2 Da!

 

Derek

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Back home I've checked my references: The line drawings say: no ANT. First the engines (radials..., but if someone knows where to get a Bristol Jupiter in 1/32?), then the corrugated skin different of the Junkersblech (too much interlocking square ribs between the halfround ones). Braille scale: possible, but no chance to bring one together in LSP.

 

I had also a look at my cash and my stash. There is no money to get a new kit (plus aftermarket). No sorrys needed. Hey, got a Phantom, a 190 and a Zero last week :) And I have found some nice kits with all the goodies somewhere at the end of this galaxy, or another, also called my stash. Surprise, surprise.

I have skipped some choices due to practical reasons: Mig-15 and Mig-17 (old Trumpy, you know). Mig-21MF (Trumpy, too many replacement parts to fit). Mig-3 (there is another one at this GB).

 

So some new options:

Mig-19 (plus Eduard) in the proposed East German airobatic markings

I-16 (high-tech kit, late type airplane) Black and Green of a less known Soviet ace

paper models: UT-1 or A-7 autogiro

 

Hmmm, the multi-wing GB is the first in the line, so I have some time to get the clue...

 

Regards!

- dutik

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Back home I've checked my references: The line drawings say: no ANT. First the engines (radials..., but if someone knows where to get a Bristol Jupiter in 1/32?), then the corrugated skin different of the Junkersblech (too much interlocking square ribs between the halfround ones). Braille scale: possible, but no chance to bring one together in LSP.

 

I had also a look at my cash and my stash. There is no money to get a new kit (plus aftermarket). No sorrys needed. Hey, got a Phantom, a 190 and a Zero last week :) And I have found some nice kits with all the goodies somewhere at the end of this galaxy, or another, also called my stash. Surprise, surprise.

I have skipped some choices due to practical reasons: Mig-15 and Mig-17 (old Trumpy, you know). Mig-21MF (Trumpy, too many replacement parts to fit). Mig-3 (there is another one at this GB).

 

So some new options:

Mig-19 (plus Eduard) in the proposed East German airobatic markings

I-16 (high-tech kit, late type airplane) Black and Green of a less known Soviet ace

paper models: UT-1 or A-7 autogiro

 

Hmmm, the multi-wing GB is the first in the line, so I have some time to get the clue...

 

Regards!

- dutik

 

Although the A-7 autogyro is extremely intriguing, I have to go with the I-16. Since I plan on building one someday to keep my IL-2 company, it'll be nice to see someone who knows what they're doing building it first.

 

Regards,

 

Tovarich Jason

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Alea iacta sunt.

 

Found Special Hobbies "I-16 type 24 super detail" kit in the stash, plus a set of Eduard masks. This is the kit with the patriotic slogans "Za Stalina!" (For Stalin) and "Za SSSR!" (For USSR). The first one was the airplane of Boris Safonov, one of the better known soviet aces, Hero of the Soviet Union and commander of a fighter unit of the Northern fleet.

Inside the box are the known IM parts (two lower centre wing sections too), a fret of PE for the engine louvers, seat belts and other appropriate locations and a bag with a lot of resin, also including an engine. Dry fit of the large plastic parts is ok. There will be some grinding required to fit the resin parts inside the hull.

I am not sure about the choice of the markings. While owning a large number of references about Polikarpovs biplane fighters I am somewhat short on supply with I-16 books. I have Erik Pilavskis book, but that has to be taken with a grain of salt, plus some images and color profiles from russian magazines like Aeromaster. So I have to dig the net to see what will suit me. Maybe I still rework the kit into another batch number, i. e. a gun ship or batch 29.

 

Regards!

- dutik

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Had a first look at the parts. Plastic is on the heavy side. This is good due to the conception of the fuselage (see below) as well as for the hanling of the model. The thick walls also provide enough room to dig in the resin sidewalls. This is bad, because it shows at any opening and requires careful curving and sanding. The dark grea plastic is not too hard and not too soft and not brittle. Good for cutting and sanding. We shall see how gluable it is.

 

The cream colored resin parts are molded crisp and clean. No visible bubbles, no overpour. Pour stubs are located in acceptable places. Spezial Hobby provides a cockpit interior with seat, sidewalls, a frame behind the seat and some minor equipment parts. The wings recieve new ailerons. There is a new cowl front of Type 24 style (with proper air intakes etc.) and a nice radial engine.

 

Also in the bag is some PE: seat harness, dashboard of sandwich construction (an acetate film with dials is provided), louvres for the cowl and some other bits.

 

Overall fit of the large part is good, at least before the cutting required for the resin parts. The mounting of the engine is odd: you have to glue it to the cowl front, which will be later glued onto the front of the fuselage. No engine mounting points inside the fuselage. OK, this will ensure a correct fit of the engine without alignment problems, struggling to bring cowl panels to fit or much swearing while adding exhaust pipes. But there is a dark half: No bulkhead. With the engine/front shutters in open position you will see the light come through from the cockpit and vice versa. Thats not good. But I think I can use the fuselage construction to my advantage:

The hull is made of 3 large parts - left and right hull and the large lower center part of the wing. I guess I am able to add the cockpit parts first into the hull halves. After this I will determine the shape and size of the required bulkhead through the large opening left by the wing section and make it fit. Last step will be the addition of the wing center section and the front with the engine parts (which are to be glued to the front part only - do you remember?).

 

We shall see.

Regards!

- dutik

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Good luck! I look forward to seeing pictures of this. I have the same kit and (some day) was going to do a little diorama. So I'll be interested in whatever issues you may or may not run into!

 

Tim W.

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While still waiting for the ordered AKAN paints to arrive, I've started to hack off the pour plugs of the resin parts. While trying to save one detail I broke off another, and vice versa. The joy of working with resin parts :rolleyes: SUper glue to the rescue.

The cockpit floor looked somewhat odd to me. There is a large, wide floor area in front of the smaller part where the seat is located. Beside the seat parts "is nothing" except some underlying spars running from one sidewall to another. Thats correct. But that floor at the front? Odd...

OK, it is odd. Because there is no such floor at the real airplane. Just empty space with stringers, spars, some mounting brackets and criscrossing plumbing. I guess I will skip the floor part instead of hacking the not needed resin away (there is plenty of it, the floor part is 5-6 mm thick). I will use the resin part as a template to make the new, smaller floor and to add the correct structures.

 

BTW, the pilot seat of the Hobby Boss Il-2 is correct. At least for early Polikarpov fighters. They had that kind of seat with a seat pan and a narrow backrest. Should be even correct for an I-16 type 5. But the Type 24 had a wide, shell-like armored backrest to protect the pilot in combat.

 

Regards!

- dutik

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