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#1 GusM

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:16 PM

Hi all, I'm looking for some help from anyone with knowledge of the Greek SLUFs.

I fancy doing one as the weathering would be a real 'skills development' opportunity. I know that some were A-7H and some surplus A-7E but what I wondered was which would the 'correct' Aires cockpit set - early or late?

I know the Trumpeter kit has 'issues' but no-one else in my house would know a Corsair from a coathanger, so as long as it looks ok to me that'll be fine.

Cheers, Gus
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#2 Jennings Heilig

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:18 PM

Probably late would be my bet.  Once again, is anyone going to know the difference?  :)


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 01:25 AM

They didn’t get the surplus USN A-7Es until the early 90’s, so they would surly have come with the SJU-8 seat since the Navy had already swapped over before then.

The A-7Hs were delivered in the late 70s, so they would have come with the original ESCAPAC seat, but I’m not sure if they were retrofitted with the SJU seat later.
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:00 AM

Good morning folks

 

the first HAF A-7s as Dave already wrote were A-7Hs with the ESCAPAC seat and no refueling probe (it was sealed over with a long plate)

 

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The camo was the original USAF Vietnam style with ALL the stencils in english (not in greek as for other AC) only the big ΠΑ (PA, means Polemiki Aeroporia> Air Force)

 

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The cockpit of the A-7H is shown here:

 

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left console

 

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right one

 

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the main wheels were of the D-Type, and no landing aproach lights on the front door, no catapult mechanism

 

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the later A-7Es were indentical to the US-NAVY ones but without the catapult bar and having the D-Type wheels.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:04 AM

the first A-7Es came with an almost 100% wrap around SEA camo. Only a small area under the fuselage and the wings undersides were in light grey.

 

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later they were painted like their H brothers...

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:25 AM

The A7-E's had the SJU-8 seat as you can see in the last two photos.



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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:12 AM

The twoseaters TA-7H and later TA-7Cs were also jsut like their oneseater brothers...

 

here's a well weathered TA-7C

 

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#8 Menelaos

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:14 AM

and for those that asking what colors were inside the air intake....

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:01 AM

I recommend to have a look at this book,
 
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It's full of heavily weathered greek camo and a great ressource for a HAF corsair
I used it for my own A-7E project and even for that it's been proven quite useful
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 11:38 AM

yes great book:

 

http://originalundmo...rdoc_ftm002.htm


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 11:53 AM

What happened to the Greek A-7's after they retired them? Were they scrapped?



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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:22 PM

no the most off them are staying in the sun at Araxos AFB..... :( :crying:

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 12:29 PM

before

 

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today....(note also the F-104 wracks ...)

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 02:35 PM

Here's another resource for Greek A-7s.

 

http://www.reidairpu...ct-p/rap015.htm

 

When I was at Araxos shooting the jets for this book, there were already a bunch of A-7Hs out in the fields, with a few A-7Es joining them.  The remaining airworthy jets were downright filthy.  So dirty that I didn't enjoy climbing into the cockpits to shoot the details.  Dirtiest aircraft I've ever been around.

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

i dondt whant to hijack this traed

but is here some one ho can me help me out with the next thing

each wing has two lights when in use are the fading or are the flashing

I have lookd tru many vids but didnt found a answer

 

thanks Mark






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