Ol' Scrapiron Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) @npb748r Neil was looking for a few reference pics for an upcoming F-86D project, so I thought I would share some photos of the different variants I have taken at museums and air shows in my travels. Hopefully these will be of some use, but use your own judgement as I believe most/all would be restored to some level. I tried to present them in order by their Type (-A, -D, -E, -F, -H...) followed by the Canadian versions, so I hope I didn't miss any. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86A 48-0260 NASM Udvar-Hazy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86A 49-1067 painted as 49-1236 NMoUSAF - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86D 52-369 displayed as 51-5976 McChord AFB 2017 - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86D 50-0477 NMoUSAF - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86E 51-13067 “Beautious Butch” Planes of Fame, Chino - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86E 50-0600 Pima Air Museum - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86F 52-5012 “Jolley Roger” Planes of Fame, Chino - - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86F marked as 51-2769 Actually a composite of several aircraft Warhawk Air Museum; Nampa, Idaho - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ RF-86F Sabre 52-4492 “Haymaker” NMoUSAF - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86H 53-1302 South Dakota Air Museum - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86H 53-1251 Evergreen Aviation Museum - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86H 53-1304 March AFB - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86H 53-1525 Pima Air Museum - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86H 53-1352 NMoUSAF - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86L 53-0965 Pima Air Museum ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86L 50-0560 March AFB - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ F-86L Sabre 53-0997 Bert Mooney Airport; Butte, Mont. - - - - - - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Canadair CL-13 Mk.5 RCAF23363 Museum of Flight - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Canadair Sabre Mk.V 23147 Pima Air Museum - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Canadair CL-13 Mk.6 RCAF23697 Yanks Air Museum, Chino - - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CL-13 Sabre S6-1675 McChord AFB ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Commonwealth CA.27 Sabre 32 marked as USAF 24629 Palm Springs Air Museum - - As reference or just inspiration, I hope you enjoy these. Edited October 12, 2022 by Ol' Scrapiron alain11, Martinnfb, Rockie Yarwood and 7 others 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 wow - what an amazing collection of photos - thank you so much. I'm just about to start my kittyhawk F-86D so these will be really useful but I've been planning an RAF F-86 (just need to get the right kit). Incredible variation in weathering, panel colours and the brightness of metal finish. I particularly like the camouflaged USAF plane and especially useful the plane with no skin - now that would make a great build !!!! Looking at these photos makes me realise I've not modelled the aircraft enough ! Thanks again for the photo, great reference material that's very much appreciated. neil Ol' Scrapiron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Lovely shots but as with most restored/preserved Sabres, caution needs to be applied. For example, F-86E 50-600 at Pima has 'F-40' wings fitted, so these are incorrect for that type (though it is a genuine Korean War veteran). F-86As 48-260 and 49-1067 are both F-86A-7s, so are incorrect for the Korean War variant that they portray. F-86D 50-477 at the NMUSAF has a non-standard rudder trim tab etc. What do you need for the F-86D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Hi Sabrejet, I was after some general external shots showing vents, undercarriage bay's etc. Just for reference. Same with F-86k which I have and plan to do in the German scheme. Whilst the pictures above may have some inaccuracies they are really helpful and inspiring !! They have also made me want to build an RAF sabre - I have no idea if there is a kit in 1/32 that can be built as an RAF example ? thanks neil Sabrejet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, npb748r said: Hi Sabrejet, I was after some general external shots showing vents, undercarriage bay's etc. Just for reference. Same with F-86k which I have and plan to do in the German scheme. Whilst the pictures above may have some inaccuracies they are really helpful and inspiring !! They have also made me want to build an RAF sabre - I have no idea if there is a kit in 1/32 that can be built as an RAF example ? thanks neil You can make an RAF Sabre, but it takes effort: I did it many years ago using the Hasegawa F-86F kit. I removed the wingtip extensions and filled the slats to get a '6-3' wing, then modified the dorsal intake/vent panel and added the fuselage side vents. Removing the wingtip extensions and narrowing the chord will more-or-less give you the early wing (RAF Sabres were fitted with a mix, depending on when they left the factory and which squadron they were assigned to and when). The Hasegawa kit features the landing gear in 'weight-off-wheels' configuration so it will look stalky unless you shorten the oleos. The Kinetic kit is a bit clunky but does give you the '6-3' wing out-of-the-box. From what I've seen it looks OK shape-wise but features a few inaccuracies such as the nose leg being the wrong shape etc. The rule of thumb for configuration is always go with period photos: both F-86D and RAF Sabre 4 were subject to modification throughout their careers, so even cockpit colours can be different for the same aircraft at different points in its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citadelgrad Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Thank you for posting these. Its funny how many of these i have seen in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: You can make an RAF Sabre, but it takes effort: I did it many years ago using the Hasegawa F-86F kit. I removed the wingtip extensions and filled the slats to get a '6-3' wing, then modified the dorsal intake/vent panel and added the fuselage side vents. Removing the wingtip extensions and narrowing the chord will more-or-less give you the early wing (RAF Sabres were fitted with a mix, depending on when they left the factory and which squadron they were assigned to and when). The Hasegawa kit features the landing gear in 'weight-off-wheels' configuration so it will look stalky unless you shorten the oleos. The Kinetic kit is a bit clunky but does give you the '6-3' wing out-of-the-box. From what I've seen it looks OK shape-wise but features a few inaccuracies such as the nose leg being the wrong shape etc. The rule of thumb for configuration is always go with period photos: both F-86D and RAF Sabre 4 were subject to modification throughout their careers, so even cockpit colours can be different for the same aircraft at different points in its life. thanks - I think I'll look out for the Kinetic kit because of the wing (I'm lazy !!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Citadelgrad said: Thank you for posting these. Its funny how many of these i have seen in person. It's the aircraft in the background that I'm starting to look at as well - spotted a B-58. Ol' Scrapiron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: Kinetic kit is a bit clunky but does give you the '6-3' wing out-of-the-box. can either the F-86F-30 or F-40 boxing be done as an RAF plane or only one of them ? Sabrejet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, npb748r said: can either the F-86F-30 or F-40 boxing be done as an RAF plane or only one of them ? F-30 kit can be done as the '6-3' wing RAF Sabre. The F-40 kit would take a bit of work but could eventually do either 'early' or 'late' but only with extensive wing mods. npb748r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry laurent Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'm not fully sure but in a corner of my memory it seems I kept the information about the existence of RAF decals in the Italeri release of the Kinetic kit. npb748r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 The Italeri (Kinetic) kit gives you an RAF 112 Sqn option but the serial number font is incorrect and the sharkmouth is the wrong colour! thierry laurent and npb748r 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 having a look online over the past hour or so reveals nothing for sale. I suspect this kit will be added to my list of "wants" of out of production models and wont come along, or when it does it will be out of my price range. Don't you just wish you bought those kits at the time they were available !!! Sabrejet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol' Scrapiron Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, npb748r said: It's the aircraft in the background that I'm starting to look at as well - spotted a B-58. Ha, I have pointed my camera at a couple of those too. B-58A 59-2458 “Cowtown Hustler” NMoUSAF - - - +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ B-58A 61-2080 Hustler Pima Air Museum - - - - ... and of course, there's more if they'll help! Alain Gadbois, Rockie Yarwood and npb748r 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepsGunsTanks Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Man, the F-86 is cool, but that B-58 is awesome! npb748r and Ol' Scrapiron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now