Fokker WW1 fighters seat belts?

[thierry laurent]

Am I the only one who thinks the proposed set-up for the lower seat belts looks weird? Just refer to Wingnuts DVII instructions for an example:

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3161&cat=4

 

How could the pilot be correctly secured with such belly belts...?!? 

[Ryan]

No I have always pondered that myself!

 

Ryan

 

[petrov27]

I don't think the lap belts went over the seat arms to fasten underneath as WNW Fokker has them - they actually attached to the inside wooden seat bottom. The notes I had from the old Aerodrome site were:

 

SHOULDER BELTS: All Fokker shoulder belts were wrapped around the upper, rear cockpit fuselage crosstube frame member, then returned over the aft upper seat and pilot's shoulders to attach with the two seatbelt straps using the four belt's locking pin.

SEAT BELTS: Two kinds of seatbelts (or lapbelts) are found on Fokkers. One type of seatbelt anchors to each inside of the seat and seat frame with pass-through bolts as seen in the E.V photo. Another type of seatbelt is anchored to the top of the wooden seat using two "U" shaped through-bolt fittings, each side attached with nuts on the top surface of the seat. These two U-fittings located on top of the seat anchor the two seatbelts, and are covered over by the seat pad. This second kind is also found in post-war Swiss Fokker D.VIIs (I have these drawings)

[BiggTim]

I notice that in the photos in the instructions, the lap belts appear to anchor inside the seat, not to the frame outside the seat.

 

Edit: I see Petrov was typing at the same time I was......

Edited December 30, 2018 by BiggTim

[thierry laurent]

Thanks guys. You confirmed what I thought. I will put the belt ends under the seat cushion. This looks far more natural. 

[Gazzas]

I thought the same thing on both of my Albatross builds.   The height of the side of the seat would make securing the pilot impossible,  If inverted he'd fall a few inches before he hit the belts.